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Something is up with the STAR/ September 5 onward it is shown sold out from MIA - NYP. Also from SAV. Normal schedule southbound STAR is showing in reservations.
Didn’t know that, thanks for the info.Indeed, and also a Chicago/Philadelphia/Florida sleeper via the Broadway Limited.
My conjecture is that the changes we have been discussing is happening on 6th September out of WAS, so 5th September out of MIA and CHI. Note that Family Bedroom is marked sold out on the Capitol Ltd. starting 6th September westbound and starting 5th September eastbound too. Just a speculation that matches the facts observed.Something is up with the STAR/ September 5 onward it is shown sold out from MIA - NYP. Also from SAV. Normal schedule southbound STAR is showing in reservations.
Hey, you started it here. Did you do so elsewhere too?Has anyone observed similar buzz on other social media sites about the possibility of thru routing the Star and Cap?
I personally don’t use FB, so not aware, but still curious…
It’s like this for many dates.Something is up with the STAR/ September 5 onward it is shown sold out from MIA - NYP. Also from SAV. Normal schedule southbound STAR is showing in reservations.
Not yet able to book, so maybe.President of ESPA (Empire State Passenger Association) Gary Prophet has posted on Facebook that the Star becomes a Florida to Chicago train via Washington DC starting Sept 6th. I have no idea what his source is, but it suggests that there might indeed be something to it. Then again it is possible that he is speculating based on observed facts like some of us are.
It would be nice but the times in Florida would be tough. Unless they mess with the timetables.Just to throw this out there for discussion, any thoughts on reconfiguring the Palm back to a sleeper equipped train to provide a second Florida train from NY?
I saw another post on Facebook by someone I know to be either a current or former Amtrak employee who stated that the Star will be terminating in WAS due to track work. (There have been some unfriendly posts on Facebook and I assume we will not see anything like that here)President of ESPA (Empire State Passenger Association) Gary Prophet has posted on Facebook that the Star becomes a Florida to Chicago train via Washington DC starting Sept 6th. I have no idea what his source is, but it suggests that there might indeed be something to it. Then again it is possible that he is speculating based on observed facts like some of us are.
There may well be track work but doubt that’s the reason the Star is apparently terminating in WAS. Very unlikely a track program would last 7 months - Sept-March ‘25 (latest you can book).current or former Amtrak employee who stated that the Star will be terminating in WAS due to track work.
Yeah I’m not in many of the Facebook groups but from what I have seen many aren’t thinking big picture.I also discovered that Lower Level coach seats are unavailable to book out of CHI starting 9/5, as are the Family Bedrooms which were previously noted. Looking at dates before 9/5, Family Bedrooms almost never sell out.
Someone on the Silver Star & Meteor Facebook group posted that the Star would be going to CHI, and was roundly shouted down.
Here are example timetables when the through cars ran between the Star (91/92 Miami Section, back then 81/82 was the Tampa section that terminated in Tampa) and the Cap.This does remind me of a situation in the 1990's, just before the Cap Ltd went Superliner, that there was a thru coach Florida - Chicago tacked on the rear of ecah train (An Amfleet-2, not Heritage).
I don't remember what the schedules were then, long before they yanked 40/41, but Amtrak is far more loathe to cut/add cars now than then. Either the whole train runs thru, or none of it does.
It is not clear to me which problem that would solve.Too bad they can't service LD trains in Philly, with a commissary and linens. The must have a honeydew wagon.
At present there is no empirical evidence that there is going to be any equipment change or short turning at WAS for the Cardinal.Perhaps the Cardinal goes Superliner ? Still a net savings of Superliner cars given the Capitol Ltd's inherently awful equipment utilization of 3 train sets, and they get to truncate one more LD train off the NEC that has a very low load factor.
The last few times I traveled on the Silvers, and I do that with some frequency these days being a resident of Florida with Northeast social connections, AFAIR the OBS crew were out of Miami. Maybe I recall wrong, but that is what I recall. IIRC I have had the same crew on a train departing NY the day after I arrived in NY for example.Since the Star's OBS people are based out of NY, what will they do now ?
That's what I thought, too. I think I recall several postings for chefs based in MIA before they restarted Traditional Dining on the Silvers.The last few times I traveled on the Silvers, and I do that with some frequency these days being a resident of Florida with Northeast social connections, AFAIR the OBS crew were out of Miami. Maybe I recall wrong, but that is what I recall. IIRC I have had the same crew on a train departing NY the day after I arrived in NY for example.
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