NYC is being inundated with rain.
NYC is being inundated with rain.
Amtrak is fine now, at least on the NEC which the Crescent runs on into NYC.Wife and I leaving Meridian, MS on the Crescent the 6th arriving NYP the 7th. Any idea what to expect in delays?
Tracks on the bridge were under water? That bridge is 135 feet above the water, and the approaches are also elevated. That must have been some flood!I did observe track 1 on the hell gate was under water when heading through and heard the engineer report that to the dispatcher on my scanner.
Hell Gate line - not the bridgeTracks on the bridge were under water? That bridge is 135 feet above the water, and the approaches are also elevated. That must have been some flood!
Yeah, I figured that, but most of the line is on an elevated viaduct. About the only place where I could imagine flooding is in the East River tunnel, and I wouldn't consider that the "Hell Gate Line," as it's shared with the Long Island RR.Hell Gate line - not the bridge
Was in the Bronx east of the Hell Gate viaduct - the ground level segment between there and the Pelham Bay bridge. There was water in the right of way all the way up to the top of the rails on track 1.Yeah, I figured that, but most of the line is on an elevated viaduct. About the only place where I could imagine flooding is in the East River tunnel, and I wouldn't consider that the "Hell Gate Line," as it's shared with the Long Island RR.
You need to study the map more carefully since your assumption that most of the Hell Gate Line between Harold Interlocking (Sunnyside) and what used to be Shell interlocking (New Rochelle) is on elevated structures is patently false Quite a bit of it, actually way more than half of it, is on the ground and a bit even in cuts.Yeah, I figured that, but most of the line is on an elevated viaduct. About the only place where I could imagine flooding is in the East River tunnel, and I wouldn't consider that the "Hell Gate Line," as it's shared with the Long Island RR.
Ah, OK.Was in the Bronx east of the Hell Gate viaduct - the ground level segment between there and the Pelham Bay bridge. There was water in the right of way all the way up to the top of the rails on track 1.
I wonder why just having water upto the top of rail causes service to be discontinued. If they did that in Mumbai or Kolkata all EMU Suburban service would come to a standstill after every Monsoon deluge. I think generally their rule is something like 6" to 9" above railtop. You must have come across videos of EMUs and regular trains charging through at reduced speed with a wake forming off of each truck. But I suppose the practice in the US is in line with being over-enthusiastic about canceling service ahead of any minor disturbance from the normal situation.Was in the Bronx east of the Hell Gate viaduct - the ground level segment between there and the Pelham Bay bridge. There was water in the right of way all the way up to the top of the rails on track 1.
I wonder why just having water upto the top of rail causes service to be discontinued. If they did that in Mumbai or Kolkata all EMU Suburban service would come to a standstill after every Monsoon deluge. I think generally their rule is something like 6" to 9" above railtop. You must have come across videos of EMUs and regular trains charging through at reduced speed with a wake forming off of each truck. But I suppose the practice in the US is in line with being over-enthusiastic about canceling service ahead of any minor disturbance from the normal situation.
193, and I believe 178, were cancelled. 84 is turned for 193, so it makes sense since it had to use the yard to turn around. 178 was probably cancelled to give 84 equipment the next day.Amtrak did a bit better than Metro North on that day. NEC service stayed running mostly though single tracked at times on hell gate though there were delays getting equipment in and out of sunny side due to the flooding but I don’t recall any outright cancellations for that but delays. Biggest disruption for Amtrak was on Empire Line where there was a suspension. Metro north was a different matter with service completely disrupted in and out of grand central for a period of hours.
Assuming that this is about water on rail mentioned above (not at all clear what it is about from the post itself), The section of the Hell Gate Line we are talking about has no third rail, so that is irrelevant.Has to do with more the 3rd rail. What is the dimension from top of rail to bottom of 3rd rail? As well for over running 3rd rail bottom of third rail to top of running rail.? Too close can ,make a socking experience. PProbably turns 3rd rail off?
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