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Charles785

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I understand a few years ago there was a serious attempt by the city of West Wendover, NV to build a platform and station on the California Zephyr tracks that go right through the town and to persuade Amtrak to add West Wendover as a stop for the train. Does anyone know where that stands today?

I'm not sure, but I believe those were Western Pacific tracks in the days before Amtrak, and I was wondering if Wendover, UT was ever a passenger stop for either the California Zephyr of old or another train. (I'm also not sure if West Wendover, NV existed as a city in the pre-Amtrak days.)

In any event, for now it's quite a significant drive from either Salt Lake City or Elko, Nevada, (over 100 miles in either direction) for those wishing to visit any of the West Wendover casinos and restaurants, or to enjoy the entertainment at the Peppermill Concert Hall or other venues.

I should mention that my ulterior motive for a Zephyr stop next April is so I can travel on passenger rail to see Tanya Tucker perform.
 
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I was in college in Salt Lake City from 1968-72. Wendover, NV was in existence at that time, though I don't remember the "West" part of the name. Driving through, the Nevada and Utah sides all seemed like one town, but of course there was a big sign in the middle of town at the state line, and all the casinos were on the Nevada side. There would have to be separate city governments for the portions in two different states.

If you believe this article, a new stop in Wendover should have happened in 2016, but it's obviously not there yet. If it's bookable for next year, an agent (or supervisor) should be able to let you know.
 
No Amtrak stop in Wendover yet. And West Wendover, NV is the only town in Nevada that uses Mountain Time instead of Pacific Time.

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Even a small section of southeastern Oregon observes Mountain Time, as they have more business ties with Idaho than the rest of Oregon....
 
railiner said:
Even a small section of southeastern Oregon observes Mountain Time, as they have more business ties with Idaho than the rest of Oregon....
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Not that small a section! I live in the center of the east half of the state, and when I drive straight east on US 26 to Ontario (Oregon, on the Snake River at the Idaho border) I pass into Mountain Time well before I get there, as does anyone driving I-84 east from Baker City to Idaho.
 
Bob Dylan said:
As an old saying goes, an elephant is a mouse designed by the government.

I think most Americans are in agreement that we should junk the current system, that was implemented during WWII as a Temporary measure, and just go with Standarized Time with Zone Boundries that make sense.

But in todays Political Climate it would take a Miracle for it to happen!
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What do time zone boundaries have to do with Daylight Saving Time? I like having daylight last until 8 p.m. in the summer.

As far as the times zones are concerned, you've got to draw the time boundaries somewhere. Some places are always going to be inconvenienced
 
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chakk said:
No Amtrak stop in Wendover yet. And West Wendover, NV is the only town in Nevada that uses Mountain Time instead of Pacific Time.

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Not true, Jackpot, NV on the Idaho border on US 93 uses Mountain Time, too.
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Thanks for correcting me to include Jackpot,NV in Mtn Time. I must say my smartphone gets confused as I approach the NV-UT border when driving west on I-80. For a mile or two, it actually resets itself to the Central Time zone instead of the Pacific Time zone.

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Bob Dylan said:
As an old saying goes, an elephant is a mouse designed by the government.

I think most Americans are in agreement that we should junk the current system, that was implemented during WWII as a Temporary measure, and just go with Standarized Time with Zone Boundries that make sense.

But in todays Political Climate it would take a Miracle for it to happen!
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Umm, daylight saving time is on top of the zone boundaries and has little or nothing to do with the boundaries themselves. They are separate, though related, things.

What, exactly, does not makes sense about the boundaries? There are many areas that want to stay in sync with larger adjacent markets, which accounts for carve outs like Wendover and Jackpot, as well as other, bigger and more meaningful ones like much of Eastern Oregon being on Mountain Time to stay with Idaho, or Northwest Indiana on Central Time to stay with Chicago.

The standard time zone system was originally devised and implemented by the railroads themselves. Governmental adoption of standard time happened later. In fact, for many years, "standard time" was often referred to as "railroad time".

Try making a case, not a rant, BD. Exclamation points do not improve an argument, nor does Gratuitous Capitalization.
 
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The railroads use of the standard time zones, was a great service....it helped end the chaos that ensued when each city went by its "solar" time....what a nightmare it must have been before then, when traveler's tried to figure out railway, steamship, and stage timetables....

Even now, as was mentioned. deviations are made in the time zones, (and even the International Date Line), for convenience, instead of strictly following the meridian's spaced 15 degrees apart...even half-hour deviation's, such as Newfoundland....
 
One of the more interesting quirks of the time zone map is in Idaho. All of the northern part of the state is in the Pacific Time zone and the southern is in the Mountain time zone, with the boundary being the Salmon River. Thus the time changes going north-south (or, as Yogi Berra might have said, vice-reversa
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) rather than east-west or west-east.
 
In some cases, the decision on which time zone to observe is based on affinity with which neighboring area's, as in the above example....Northern Idaho with Spokane and the South with Boise...

Other examples are if the location is in the far west end of a zone, they find they'd rather have the "sun time" of the next zone....
 
Bob Dylan said:
Looks like I'm the only one that thinks the current time system isn't perfectly OK, so I'll withdraw my Post and bow to those who think that the current system makes sense.
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If you are referring to Daylight Savings Time, I might actually tend to agree with you....I would like to see it end, as well.....If people are disturbed by too dark a mornng or evening as a result of staying on either Daylignt or Standard time all year round....all they have to do is seasonally adjust their own school or businesses hours of operation....not force everyone to change their clocks....
 
Bob Dylan said:
Looks like I'm the only one that thinks the current time system isn't perfectly OK, so I'll withdraw my Post and bow to those who think that the current system makes sense.
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Daylight saving time? Or time zones?

Count me among those who would like to see an end to the twice-annual time changes.

And I suppose if I spent enough time examining the time zone boundaries I might find a change or two to make, but they don't seem unreasonable overall.
 
I’d vote for DST all the time. I hate it getting dark so early this time of year!

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An update here:

The station plans in West Wendover were subject to Union Pacific-demanded cost increases that have pushed it down the road for the past 10 years.

The station is still listed in West Wendover's CIP with a cost of $12 Million, up from $1 Million originally estimated.

Here's a screenshot from a 2016 report.
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Here's the most recent version of the CIP:
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