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Yes, that's what he already said.

I'm not comparing it to a berth since berths don't have outlets or walls, and a Roomette does. Do you disagree that comparing it to two Cabins for 1 makes sense, considering its literally the same thing as a Heritage Roomette?

Correct. A single ACS-64 can handle up to 18 cars.

So you're saying that you don't think this letter will have any effect or is any indication of real change to come?

This took me way too long, but I have turned the letter into actual text. This makes quoting and searching infinitely easier, so...you're welcome. ^_^ This part really stood out to me since it covers some of the ambiguous language regarding station staffing that was mentioned with the FY2019...

But is it more than twice as good? Like, do you think we would really prefer to take the Canadian one-way, than to take Amtrak cross country round-trip and still have a couple hundred bucks left over?

That would only be correct if Business Class was available on the same routes as sleepers and was comparable in cost. But because BC is mainly available on short distance routes and is a much cheaper option, it takes MANY more trips to reach that $4,000.

Both.

What makes you say that? Between the ledge above the trash can, space under the seats, and the storage cubby over the hallway, a passenger would need to be bringing an unusually large amount of luggage onboard for it not to fit in their Roomette. That said, I think there was some mention a while...

My point was that it's at least as difficult to spend $4K on Business Class as it is to spend $5K on sleepers.

It's a $3 voucher, right? The way I understand it, you get many more snacks and beverages (including one alcoholic) in BC on the Surfliner than you can from that voucher on the Cascades.

Because the soft product isn't as good.

Having to spend $4,000 on Business Class is also a bit high.

2x1 seating is a VERY small part of what can distinguish the Business Class hard product, when you consider the fact that it only affects seat width. There are just so many other factors. In almost every respect other than the number of seats in a row, BC on the Surfliner is a significant bump...

Yeah, as we've seen on the CL and LSL, he definitely likes to think inside the box. :D   :lol:

What I'm saying is that the Surfliner arguably offers the best BC product in the Amtrak system. So I feel like, by Amtrak's standards, it's hard to not call that true Business Class.

Yesterday's blood bath still having a cascading effect on today?

Interestingly I had just noticed that about a second before your post showed up. :giggle:

I think many people here would dispute the claim that BC on the Surfliner counts as "Business Minus".

I know it's normal. That's my point. I was listing all the factors that resulted in such a cold night onboard. ;)