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For now the SWC is still available. It would give you the Southwest but one less day stuck in the train.

How many other LD trains would PTC affect?

Not according to the old timetables. In the old Pioneer days, there was no need to have a SPK-PDX leg. But even before the Pioneer (pre 1977), the NCH still didn't serve Portland (back then neither did the Empire Builder). http://timetables.org/full.php?group=19760615&item=0050...

Right.

Totally agree on the SWC vs. DW (more cities vs. faster). In the last timetable at timetables.org before the DW and Pioneer were canceled (November 1996), it is worth noting that the SWC was daily, CZ and EB (west of MSP) was 4x/week, and DW and Pioneer were 3x/week. That was probably a good...

They already came for and stole my train so your plea for me that all trains are important is falling on deaf ears. Now I have no problems fighting for the SWC but you know I'm not fighting for some of the more worthless LD trains. And if there's no Gateway, there not only won't be any NEC...

In their 80's, I wouldn't recommend CLE where they are getting off and on the train during the graveyard shift. Might as well go to CHI then, it's only a few more hours (or maybe the hours are better in TOL or South Bend).

Attacked is a strong word. If you no longer receive a 10% discount on railfare, I would hardly think that qualifies as an attack (maybe an attack on your wallet, and that's assuming you choose to travel). The LSL/CL meals at most are an attack on their stomachs.

I wouldn't go that far but I was disproving the notion that true overnight LD travel is sleeper only. I have taken a lot of overnight LD travel and I have never taken a sleeper before. For a single passenger, unless you are part of AGR or some other plan, you are paying 2-3X as much for a "bed"...

Silver Meteor: https://www.railpassengers.org/site/assets/files/3459/19.pdf Revenue from Coach: 300,151 * $ 83.00 = $24,912,533 Revenue from Sleeper: 41,255 * $291.00 = $12,005,205 They make twice as much revenue from coach fares (not counting the food that coach passengers have to buy...

I hardly believe the Charleston Station agent nor other station agents in most stations in places I've never heard of are "national network issues". I forget the actual statistic but most tickets are handled online these days and a lot of stops don't have agents already. Cutting agents is a cost...

You might want to read the fine print again... https://www.manchin.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/manchin-secures-language-to-ensure-amtrak-ticket-agent-in-west-Virginia "The Committee directs Amtrak to provide at least one station agent in every state where it operates that had at least...

"A Senator". All that proves is some selfish West Virginia Senator who only cares about West Virginians. Same thing about the ticket agent. I'd like my AAA discount back but I guess no one in West Virginia has AAA so Manchin or the other Senator in WV doesn't care to fight to get it back. I'm...

If you count days of service, CIN serves way more than 40 passengers a day (40 * 3 * 52 = 6,240). Of course if you use that metric so does Charleston. Technically Cincinnati and Charleston should only need the agent 3x/day so you can justify them keeping their agents (not sure how many other...

It was just the most eye opening and would get the most attention of those in the main stream media. Certainly the media in Cincinnati would notice as opposed to the local TV stations/newspapers in Shelby, MT (do they even have any?) and you have 2-3 million potential people noticing.

You assume Manchin cares about Amtrak at all. He cares about West Virginia. He worded it carefully to try to get enough other Senators to care even though basically this is just to save Charleston. There may be a couple of other stations in the country that this applies to. If the other Senators...

I just went to TrainOrders and they were discussing it. https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?4,4569827 They pointed out and I went back to the Manchin release...

Coach passengers too. http://timetables.org/full.php?group=19910407&item=0044 http://timetables.org/full.php?group=19910407&item=0051 Of the potential Chicago-Florida routes, the route through Washington would overlap the most population and include Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and Raleigh...

With what equipment? With what money? If it was that simple, wouldn't it have been done by the last ten Amtrak presidents?

Ryan has annoyed me a lot to the point that I just ignore his posts (and there is an option to ignore a specific member's posts) (I'm guessing people use it on me too:) Every board has bad apples, just block the bad apple(s), there should be enough good apples for meaningful discussion. I...