Amtrak Train #8 EB 12-22-2021 L--A--T--E way late

[WWW]

Departed 2 hours late and became almost 21

Vhat happenn ?

* Train 8 of 12/22/2021. Map Details Formatted Data
* THIS TRAIN EXPERIENCED A SERVICE DISRUPTION.
* Empire Builder (PDF Schedule)
* +---------------- Station Code
* | +----------- Schedule Arrival Day
* | | +-------- Schedule Arrival Time
* | | | +----- Schedule Departure Day
* | | | | +-- Schedule Departure Time
* | | | | | +------------- Actual Arrival Time
* | | | | | | +------- Actual Departure Time
* | | | | | | | +- Comments
* V V V V V V V V
* SEA * * 1 440P * 650P Departed: 2 hours, 10 minutes late.
* EDM * * 1 512P * 724P Departed: 2 hours, 12 minutes late.
* EVR * * 1 539P * 756P Departed: 2 hours, 17 minutes late.
* LWA * * 1 800P * 547A Departed: 9 hours, 47 minutes late.
* WEN 1 832P 1 842P 620A 630A Arrived: 9 hours, 48 minutes late. | Departed: 9 hours, 48 minutes late.
* EPH * * 1 942P * 739A Departed: 9 hours, 57 minutes late.
* SPK 2 1240A 2 125A 951A 1252P Arrived: 9 hours, 11 minutes late. | Departed: 11 hours, 27 minutes late.
* SPT * * 2 230A * 221P Departed: 11 hours, 51 minutes late.
* LIB * * 2 521A * 513P Departed: 11 hours, 52 minutes late.
* WFH 2 721A 2 741A 142A 205A Arrived: 18 hours, 21 minutes late | Departed: 18 hours, 24 minutes late.
* WGL * * 2 811A * 358A Departed: 19 hours, 47 minutes late.
* ESM * * 2 850A * 443A Departed: 19 hours, 53 minutes late.
* BRO * * 2 1005A * 636A Departed: 20 hours, 31 minutes late.
* CUT * * 2 1040A * 713A Departed: 20 hours, 33 minutes late.
* SBY 2 1128A 2 1133A 742A 801A Arrived: 20 hours, 14 minutes late | Departed: 20 hours, 28 minutes late.
* HAV 2 102P 2 122P 951A 1013A Arrived: 20 hours, 49 minutes late | Departed: 20 hours, 51 minutes late.
* MAL * * 2 242P * 1135A Departed: 20 hours, 53 minutes late.
GGW * * 2 337P MT
WPT * * 2 423P MT
WTN * * 2 659P CT
STN * * 2 801P CT
MOT 2 927P 2 947P CT
RUG * * 2 1043P CT
DVL * * 2 1137P CT
GFK * * 4 102A CT
FAR * * 3 218A CT
DLK * * 3 315A CT
SPL * * 3 414A CT
SCD 3 519A 3 519A CT
MSP 3 743A 3 800A CT
RDW * * 3 854A CT
WIN 3 1004A 3 1011A CT
LSE * * 3 1047A CT
TOH * * 3 1126A CT
WDL * * 3 1208P CT
POG * * 3 1227P CT
CBS * * 3 1257P CT
MKE 3 207P 3 215P CT
GLN * * 3 312P CT
CHI 3 355P * * CT

 

[slasher-fun]

Empire Builder Train 8 which is scheduled to depart Seattle (SEA) on 12/22 is delayed departing due to mechanical issues. The train will be on the move once the issue is resolved.
UPDATE: Empire Builder Train 8 departed Seattle (SEA) on 12/22 and is currently operating approx. 2hr 15min late.
Empire Builder Train 8 which departed from Seattle (SEA) on 12/22 is currently stopped east of Everett (EVR) due to disabled freight train in its path. We will update when more information is available.
UPDATE: Empire Builder Train 8 which departed from Seattle (SEA) on 12/22 is currently stopped east of Everett (EVR) due to disabled freight train in its path. We will update when more information is available.
UPDATE: Empire Builder Train 8 which departed from Seattle (SEA) on 12/22 is back on the move and currently operating approximately 9hrs 10mins late.
Empire Builder Train 28 which departed from Portland (PDX) on 12/22 is currently stopped in Spokane (SPK) due to late connecting train. We will update when more information is available.
UPDATE: Train 8/28 that departed Seattle/Portland on 12/22 is still stopped in Spokane (SPK) due to a disabled freight train ahead. An on time express bus will run between St. Paul & Chicago. A second bus will operate to Winona, La Crosse, Tomah, Wisconsin Dells, & Milwaukee.
UPDATE: Empire Builder Train 8/28 which departed Seattle (SEA) / Portland (PDX) on 12/22 is back on the move and currently operating approx. 11hr 20min late.
Empire Builder Train 8/28 which departed from Seattle (SEA)/Portland (PDX) is back on the move and currently operating approximately 19hr 45mins late.

 

[Acela150]

So I an give some insight for you. I arrived into Seattle on 7 on the 22nd. We had an issue with our third engine in between Stanley and Minot. That engine continued to Seattle. Not sure where it happened. But we added a BN unit to lead the train to Seattle. We arrived into Seattle around 145pm. After that I don't know. I'm off the clock at that point. It doesn't matter to me lol!

 

[WWW]

Thank You for the update information - - -

slasher-fun --- where did you get this information ? Can I access it on the internet source ?

Acela150 --- interesting Amtrak has recently added a third engine that goes kaput (issue) and a replacement BNSF is leading the train
some kind of jinx with this EB route - a lot of noteworthy attention - - -
Montana derailment
Amazon delivery truck accident (Columbus)
Police action at Red Wing
and frequent assistance from BNSF

Chicago is going to be juggling train sets until EB #8 arrives to turn to another consist

 

[AmtrakBlue]

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[Acela150]

Acela150 --- interesting Amtrak has recently added a third engine that goes kaput (issue) and a replacement BNSF is leading the train
some kind of jinx with this EB route - a lot of noteworthy attention - - -
Montana derailment
Amazon delivery truck accident (Columbus)
Police action at Red Wing
and frequent assistance from BNSF

Chicago is going to be juggling train sets until EB #8 arrives to turn to another consist

Trust me.. I'm well aware of the stuff that goes on with the EB. Tomorrow will be interesting to say the least. I don't think that Chicago has enough spare equipment to put together a trainset. But we shall see.

 

[alanh]

Looks like the next day EB is only two hours behind it.

 

[WWW]

Yes - that would be a full house 3 8's and 2 7's in motion all at the same time

#8 (24) just left SEA
#8 (23) near Minot ND
#8 (22) Grand Forks ND

#7 (24) at Saint Cloud MN
#7 (23) near Essex MT

#28 & #27 not factored in at this posting - - -

 

[Tlcooper44]

I was on 7 just today (arriving SEA on the 24th). We were only two hours late into Seattle caused by the same incident, but I saw the various individuals and crowds at stations who suffered from this gargantuan delay.

based on the announcements I heard, it was basic freight interference at first, but horribly gone wrong. The train broke down, blocking the east own EB.

this is what I heard/had a long discussion with my conductor about.

 

[Acela150]

Well, I was wrong. Chicago did indeed have enough spare equipment for a train. The train arrived a shade over 23 hours late. The OBS crew got on the new train and left for Seattle. It supposedly has 161 leading. Train 8 out of Seattle today is still in the yard. The inbound had issues with a broken rail and a downed tree.

 

[Cal]

Well, I was wrong. Chicago did indeed have enough spare equipment for a train. The train arrived a shade over 23 hours late. The OBS crew got on the new train and left for Seattle. It supposedly has 161 leading. Train 8 out of Seattle today is still in the yard. The inbound had issues with a broken rail and a downed tree.

I really feel bad for those OBS, literally on for 80+ hours nonstop.

 

[WWW]

Probably the only consolation is earning double time or double time and half Holiday Pay if that is the current Scrooge rate of pay !
But the time off between trips is more imperative to ones health and well being !
Did 6 double shifts with a 7 hour break in between in my youth and vigor taking home a pay check matching the regional VP this back in the late 60's.
But then we didn't have this covid factor - just plain ordinary flu and colds - take two of these and sweat it out.


EB #8 12/25 left 21 minutes late and now running about 3:30 late - going to screw up
the #28 (running on time) connection at Spokane

#8 12/24 is running well with miniscule lateness
#8 12/23 arrived Chicago about a couple hours late
#8 12/22 arrived almost a full day late

#7 12/24 running on time and in places early +
#7 12/25 departed Chicago 1:55 late and picking time up minute by minute
still 1:35 late

Just you wait till next week the weather is going down on the (-) minus F/C side - frozen broken switches icying of the rails all that good stuff.

 

[Acela150]

8 (25) actually left Seattle around 915pm.

 

[Steve4031]

I think they took two sleepers from gf of 29. I overheard the crew discussing that these cars would be swapped out in Chicago. I posted this news in my trip report. Someone replied that they were probably being used for 7.