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A friend and I would like to travel on the Empire Builder through Glacier NP. We would fly into Kalispell and presumably take a bus or shuttle to Whitefish to board the eastbound EB.
We are two (possibly three) retired ladies who only want to catch the EB, see some of GN Park, and walk around one or two of the little towns on the route. We are trying to avoid an overnight on the train or renting a car. We'd prefer to spend no more than four nights total in hotels; a short and hopefully easy trip.
We plan to travel eastbound so views of GNP from the EB will be in daylight, barring a disaster. We are thinking late August would be a good time, probably Aug. 2023 as this year may be booked up and my friend prefers to wait til next year.
This is what we tentatively have in mind so far:
1. Fly from ATL to Kalispell. Take a bus or shuttle from the airport to Whitefish.
2. Walk around Whitefish a little and spend one night in a hotel, preferably one close to the train station.
3. Board the eastbound Empire Builder the next morning for a short hop.
4. Get off in West Glacier. Spend two nights there so we can spend a day taking a Red Bus tour on Going to the Sun Rd. Stay in one of the little hotels near the entrance of GTTS Rd./Hwy. 3 or possibly Lake McDonald Lodge.
5. Board the eastbound Empire Builder to continue through GNP.
6. Get off in one of the little towns east of GNP; no idea which one. Walk around that town a bit and probably spend one night there so as not to stress about transportation connection.
7. Get back to the Kalispell airport (or the closest airport with flights to ATL) the next day, maybe on a bus.
8. Fly back to ATL.
Several questions:
1. If (?) the bus could take us from the Kalispell airport to West Glacier (instead of Whitefish), how much would we miss if we didn't see any of Whitefish and the stretch of the EB between Whitefish and W. Glacier? We're thinking Whitefish and the extra segment on the train would probably be worth doing regardless, as the rest of the trip is so brief. Thoughts?
2. Is transportation easily available from/to the W. Glacier Amtrak station and the hotels around the entrance to Going to the Sun Rd.?
3. We think West Glacier might be better suited for our purposes than East Glacier for the 2-night stay and Red Bus tour, but what do you think?
3. Really need suggestions on this one: Which little town east of GNP on the EB route is best for us? (Best scenery from the town, best to walk around town safely, decent hotel near train station, not too far from an airport.) (East Glacier, Browning, Cut Bank, Shelby, Havre, ..., etc.)
4. Is a bus the best way for us to get from that little town back to the airport in Kalispell (or to another airport with flights to ATL)? (I found one bus that supposedly runs two days a week from Shelby to Kalispell, not sure if it makes other stops.) We'd rather not have to spend another night on the way back.
6. Recommendations for hotels and places to eat, keeping in mind we don't plan to rent a car. We don't care about fancy, but clean and a bit of character would be good, and a place to eat on site would be a big plus.
7. Any tips for the EB? Which train (28 or 8), which side of eastbound train, can coach passengers still use the SS Lounge car, etc. I understand we'll be banned from the dining car even if we're on the train at mealtime. We want upper level seats for the better views.
8. Any current info or a current complete timetable for the EB would be greatly appreciated. The info I found says it runs five days a week now. I can only find official times by starting a booking.
All suggestions and advice are appreciated! (I've read the thread in the travel forum about East and West Glacier from a few years ago.)
Many thanks in advance!
A friend and I would like to travel on the Empire Builder through Glacier NP. We would fly into Kalispell and presumably take a bus or shuttle to Whitefish to board the eastbound EB.
We are two (possibly three) retired ladies who only want to catch the EB, see some of GN Park, and walk around one or two of the little towns on the route. We are trying to avoid an overnight on the train or renting a car. We'd prefer to spend no more than four nights total in hotels; a short and hopefully easy trip.
We plan to travel eastbound so views of GNP from the EB will be in daylight, barring a disaster. We are thinking late August would be a good time, probably Aug. 2023 as this year may be booked up and my friend prefers to wait til next year.
This is what we tentatively have in mind so far:
1. Fly from ATL to Kalispell. Take a bus or shuttle from the airport to Whitefish.
2. Walk around Whitefish a little and spend one night in a hotel, preferably one close to the train station.
3. Board the eastbound Empire Builder the next morning for a short hop.
4. Get off in West Glacier. Spend two nights there so we can spend a day taking a Red Bus tour on Going to the Sun Rd. Stay in one of the little hotels near the entrance of GTTS Rd./Hwy. 3 or possibly Lake McDonald Lodge.
5. Board the eastbound Empire Builder to continue through GNP.
6. Get off in one of the little towns east of GNP; no idea which one. Walk around that town a bit and probably spend one night there so as not to stress about transportation connection.
7. Get back to the Kalispell airport (or the closest airport with flights to ATL) the next day, maybe on a bus.
8. Fly back to ATL.
Several questions:
1. If (?) the bus could take us from the Kalispell airport to West Glacier (instead of Whitefish), how much would we miss if we didn't see any of Whitefish and the stretch of the EB between Whitefish and W. Glacier? We're thinking Whitefish and the extra segment on the train would probably be worth doing regardless, as the rest of the trip is so brief. Thoughts?
2. Is transportation easily available from/to the W. Glacier Amtrak station and the hotels around the entrance to Going to the Sun Rd.?
3. We think West Glacier might be better suited for our purposes than East Glacier for the 2-night stay and Red Bus tour, but what do you think?
3. Really need suggestions on this one: Which little town east of GNP on the EB route is best for us? (Best scenery from the town, best to walk around town safely, decent hotel near train station, not too far from an airport.) (East Glacier, Browning, Cut Bank, Shelby, Havre, ..., etc.)
4. Is a bus the best way for us to get from that little town back to the airport in Kalispell (or to another airport with flights to ATL)? (I found one bus that supposedly runs two days a week from Shelby to Kalispell, not sure if it makes other stops.) We'd rather not have to spend another night on the way back.
6. Recommendations for hotels and places to eat, keeping in mind we don't plan to rent a car. We don't care about fancy, but clean and a bit of character would be good, and a place to eat on site would be a big plus.
7. Any tips for the EB? Which train (28 or 8), which side of eastbound train, can coach passengers still use the SS Lounge car, etc. I understand we'll be banned from the dining car even if we're on the train at mealtime. We want upper level seats for the better views.
8. Any current info or a current complete timetable for the EB would be greatly appreciated. The info I found says it runs five days a week now. I can only find official times by starting a booking.
All suggestions and advice are appreciated! (I've read the thread in the travel forum about East and West Glacier from a few years ago.)
Many thanks in advance!