Night Owl consist

[Donctor]

When I was young I rode the Night Owl a few times. My dad recalls the consist as being:

E60

Heritage Baggage

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Café

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Heritage 10/6 Sleeper

However, whilst searching for Night Owl consists on Google, I found a mention of the Night Owl carrying a Slumbercoach. Did it? What would the consist have been?

 

[the_traveler]

I'm not sure, but I do remember hearing it carried two sleepers, one WAS-BOS and one only WAS-NYP which offered early boarding (in the evening) and later departure (in the morning).

 

[cpamtfan]

When I was young I rode the Night Owl a few times. My dad recalls the consist as being:
E60

Heritage Baggage

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Café

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Heritage 10/6 Sleeper

However, whilst searching for Night Owl consists on Google, I found a mention of the Night Owl carrying a Slumbercoach. Did it? What would the consist have been?

I believe there was a Slumbercoach at one time or another, but then in the mid-to-late '80s, many cars either were involved in derailments, etc. Sometimes (as I saw before) the train consisted of two sleepers out of BOS (plus the extra NYC-WAS sleeper, known as the "Executive" sleeper). Also, I believe the Amcafe (all coach seat)usually ran behind the sleeper, infront of the coaches.

cpamtfan-Peter

 

[Bill Haithcoat]

When I was young I rode the Night Owl a few times. My dad recalls the consist as being:
E60

Heritage Baggage

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Café

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Heritage 10/6 Sleeper

However, whilst searching for Night Owl consists on Google, I found a mention of the Night Owl carrying a Slumbercoach. Did it? What would the consist have been?

I believe there was a Slumbercoach at one time or another, but then in the mid-to-late '80s, many cars either were involved in derailments, etc. Sometimes (as I saw before) the train consisted of two sleepers out of BOS (plus the extra NYC-WAS sleeper, known as the "Executive" sleeper). Also, I believe the Amcafe (all coach seat)usually ran behind the sleeper, infront of the coaches.

cpamtfan-Peter

I could be wrong but I do not remember a slumbercoach on this train.My timetables are out of place but I might get a chance to look later.

 

[Green Maned Lion]

There was a period where the Night Owl only ran with a slumbercoach. It did not offer both. Ever.

 

[railiner]

And the Night Owl Amcafe was the only 'open-all-night' food service car on the entire Amtrak system. It did a brisk business with travelers getting on at all stops enroute.

 

[Green Maned Lion]

66/67 still offer that.

 

[MikefromCrete]

With the announcement that Amtrak is seeking bids on new Viewliner sleepers it seems time to bring back the Night Owl in all its glory.

 

[Green Maned Lion]

With the announcement that Amtrak is seeking bids on new Viewliner sleepers it seems time to bring back the Night Owl in all its glory.

I'd be shocked if they didn't do that as part of the plan. It was a profitable train.

 

[Donctor]

There was a period where the Night Owl only ran with a slumbercoach. It did not offer both. Ever.

Approximately when was that? Weren't all the Slumbercoaches in use on the LSL and Silvers?

 

[Green Maned Lion]

There was a period where the Night Owl only ran with a slumbercoach. It did not offer both. Ever.

Approximately when was that? Weren't all the Slumbercoaches in use on the LSL and Silvers?

Mid nineties, when the Viewliners were replacing slumbercoaches. Slumbercoaches make more sense on the Nightowl anyway.

 

[Donctor]

Mid nineties, when the Viewliners were replacing slumbercoaches. Slumbercoaches make more sense on the Nightowl anyway.

So the consist would've been as follows?

E60

Heritage Baggage (I don't know if it carried a baggage at this time)

Heritage Slumbercoach (24/8?)

Amfleet I Café

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Is this correct?

 

[had8ley]

Mid nineties, when the Viewliners were replacing slumbercoaches. Slumbercoaches make more sense on the Nightowl anyway.

So the consist would've been as follows?

E60

Heritage Baggage (I don't know if it carried a baggage at this time)

Heritage Slumbercoach (24/8?)

Amfleet I Café

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Is this correct?

There was a short time that this train had one or two express cars coupled to the hind end out of South Station next to the then lone sleeper. IIRC, it was U.S. mail.

 

[Donctor]

There was a short time that this train had one or two express cars coupled to the hind end out of South Station next to the then lone sleeper. IIRC, it was U.S. mail.

So the Slumbercoach or 10/6 Sleeper was at the REAR of the train? I'm trying very hard to get my consists in the correct order.

Was there a BOS-WAS sleeper in addition to a NYP-BOS sleeper? I'm lost.

 

[gaspeamtrak]

There was a period where the Night Owl only ran with a slumbercoach. It did not offer both. Ever.

Approximately when was that? Weren't all the Slumbercoaches in use on the LSL and Silvers?

They were also on the Cardinal because I remember I rode a Slumbercoach on and eastboud trip.

 

[cpamtfan]

There was a short time that this train had one or two express cars coupled to the hind end out of South Station next to the then lone sleeper. IIRC, it was U.S. mail.

So the Slumbercoach or 10/6 Sleeper was at the REAR of the train? I'm trying very hard to get my consists in the correct order.

Was there a BOS-WAS sleeper in addition to a NYP-BOS sleeper? I'm lost.

There was a NYP-WAS sleeper as well as a BOS-WAS sleeper. As GML said, the 10-6 and Slumbercoach at the same time. They were(as I have seen in pictures) on the rear, followed by the Amcafe, and coaches.

cpamtfan-Peter

 

[cpamtfan]

There was a period where the Night Owl only ran with a slumbercoach. It did not offer both. Ever.

Approximately when was that? Weren't all the Slumbercoaches in use on the LSL and Silvers?

They were also on the Cardinal because I remember I rode a Slumbercoach on and eastboud trip.

They were also on the CL for a little while, until the Superliner IIs were delivered.

cpamtfan-Peter

 

[Donctor]

There was a NYP-WAS sleeper as well as a BOS-WAS sleeper. As GML said, the 10-6 and Slumbercoach at the same time. They were(as I have seen in pictures) on the rear, followed by the Amcafe, and coaches.
cpamtfan-Peter

So my consist is now as follows:

E60

Heritage Baggage (?)

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Café

Heritage Slumbercoach (BOS-WAS)

Heritage 10/6 Sleeper (NYP-WAS)

Is this correct?

 

[cpamtfan]

There was a NYP-WAS sleeper as well as a BOS-WAS sleeper. As GML said, the 10-6 and Slumbercoach at the same time. They were(as I have seen in pictures) on the rear, followed by the Amcafe, and coaches.
cpamtfan-Peter

So my consist is now as follows:

E60

Heritage Baggage (?)

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Café

Heritage Slumbercoach (BOS-WAS)

Heritage 10/6 Sleeper (NYP-WAS)

Is this correct?

GML said sleepers and Slumbercoaches mixed on the Night Owl. So there would be two 10-6 sleepers (one BOS-WAS, the other NYP-WAS and vice-versa)

cpamtfan-Peter

 

[Donctor]

GML said sleepers and Slumbercoaches mixed on the Night Owl. So there would be two 10-6 sleepers (one BOS-WAS, the other NYP-WAS and vice-versa)
cpamtfan-Peter

So the consist would've been:

E60

Heritage Baggage (?)

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Café

Heritage Slumbercoach or Heritage 10/6 Sleeper (BOS-WAS)

Heritage 10/6 Sleeper (NYP-WAS)

 

[cpamtfan]

GML said sleepers and Slumbercoaches mixed on the Night Owl. So there would be two 10-6 sleepers (one BOS-WAS, the other NYP-WAS and vice-versa)
cpamtfan-Peter

So the consist would've been:

E60

Heritage Baggage (?)

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Café

Heritage Slumbercoach or Heritage 10/6 Sleeper (BOS-WAS)

Heritage 10/6 Sleeper (NYP-WAS)

Yeah, except I don't think the E60 was allowede to run the NewHaven-NewYork leg for some reason. Also and F40 powered the train from BOS-New Haven, then I think an AEM7. Phew this is giving me some work!

cpamtfan-Peter

 

[Donctor]

Yeah, except I don't think the E60 was allowede to run the NewHaven-NewYork leg for some reason. Also and F40 powered the train from BOS-New Haven, then I think an AEM7. Phew this is giving me some work!
cpamtfan-Peter

Thanks for the help!

 

[Donctor]

What I have for the Niagara Rainbow (#'s 62 & 65) is:

F40

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Café

Heritage 10/6 Sleeper

What I have for the Montrealer is:

Before June '92:

F40

F40

Heritage Baggage

Heritage Coach

Heritage Coach

Heritage Coach

Heritage Coach

Heritage Lounge "LePub"

Heritage 10/6 Sleeper

Heritage 10/6 Sleeper

After June '92:

F40

F40 - Weekends Only

Heritage Baggage

Amfleet II Coach

Amfleet II Coach

Amfleet II Coach

Amfleet II Coach - Weekends Only

Heritage Lounge - "LePub"

Heritage 10/6 Sleeper

Heritage 10/6 Sleeper - Weekends Only

 

[had8ley]

GML said sleepers and Slumbercoaches mixed on the Night Owl. So there would be two 10-6 sleepers (one BOS-WAS, the other NYP-WAS and vice-versa)
cpamtfan-Peter

So the consist would've been:

E60

Heritage Baggage (?)

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Café

Heritage Slumbercoach or Heritage 10/6 Sleeper (BOS-WAS)

Heritage 10/6 Sleeper (NYP-WAS)

...and for a short time two express (or mail) cars brought up the rear.

 

[Green Maned Lion]

I said they were mixed? I said they were NEVER mixed.