steamtrain6868
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I heard the right of way was graded but tracks were never laid
BC Rail (or perhaps a BC Rail predecessor; BC Rail is now part of CN) began constructing a line to Dease Lake, BC, in the 1970s, but stopped short and left a partially-finished line and partially-graded right-of-way. This line could have (possibly/maybe) been used as a "first step" in linking the Alaska Railroad with the Canadian (and, therefore, American) rail network. But, the entire BC Rail line (including the unfinished portion) lie within the province of British Columbia. The right of way (grading and tracks) would still need to be pushed the rest of the way north through the northern part of the province of British Columbia, through the territory of Yukon, and through the eastern part of the state of Alaska.I heard the right of way was graded but tracks were never laid
Don't know if it is the same section, but some 40 to 50 years ago a 10 to 20 mile extension of the British Columbia Railroad, at that time called the Pacific Great Eastern, was graded but track never laid. This was called the Dease Lake extension if my memory is correct. An extension to Alaska from it was talked about, but not sure that the talkers were doing more than indulging in some verbal speculaton.I heard the right of way was graded but tracks were never laid
Looks like we were thinking of the same thing at about the same time.Don't know if it is the same section, but some 40 to 50 years ago a 10 to 20 mile extension of the British Columbia Railroad, at that time called the Pacific Great Eastern, was graded but track never laid. This was called the Dease Lake extension if my memory is correct. An extension to Alaska from it was talked about, but not sure that the talkers were doing more than indulging in some verbal speculaton.I heard the right of way was graded but tracks were never laid
I doubt it. Look at high-latitude railroads that have been built, like BAM. The railroad was poorly built and ended up costing vastly more than projected, and has carried little traffic. Why build a railroad to Alaska, when we don't have a railroad that Amtrak can use to Phoenix?Build it and the development will follow?? Will the railroad be a catlist for development? Just like the old frontier days?
Catalyst.Build it and the development will follow?? Will the railroad be a catlist for development? Just like the old frontier days?
Yes. I will assume that your dates are better than my guesses. My time frame gets a little warped occasionally.Looks like we were thinking of the same thing at about the same time.Don't know if it is the same section, but some 40 to 50 years ago a 10 to 20 mile extension of the British Columbia Railroad, at that time called the Pacific Great Eastern, was graded but track never laid. This was called the Dease Lake extension if my memory is correct. An extension to Alaska from it was talked about, but not sure that the talkers were doing more than indulging in some verbal speculaton.I heard the right of way was graded but tracks were never laid
What's the story with that anyway? I remember reading that the host railroad stopped maintaining the portion of the ROW that allowed for simple through service from Amtrak, but as Phoenix still receives freight service it seems odd that it can't be served at all by Amtrak. I have a friend who lives in Phoenix but I can't figure out a way to visit by train that even begins to make any sense.I doubt it. Look at high-latitude railroads that have been built, like BAM. The railroad was poorly built and ended up costing vastly more than projected, and has carried little traffic. Why build a railroad to Alaska, when we don't have a railroad that Amtrak can use to Phoenix?
Have you ever been to this territory? I like it, but I like sleeping in a 40° bedroom. As for the other 99.9% of people, who like temperatures to be what the human body considers livable, nobody wants to live in that area. It would be like trying to develop an uninhabitable sandspit. No, I have no explanation for why it worked in Florida.Build it and the development will follow?? Will the railroad be a catlist for development? Just like the old frontier days?
The line west out of Phoenix is out of service. It goes through miles and miles of nothing but miles and miles. The line east out of Phoenix is still being used. Freight enters Phoenix from the east and leaves the same way regardless of its origin or destination.What's the story with that anyway? I remember reading that the host railroad stopped maintaining the portion of the ROW that allowed for simple through service from Amtrak, but as Phoenix still receives freight service it seems odd that it can't be served at all by Amtrak. I have a friend who lives in Phoenix but I can't figure out a way to visit by train that even begins to make any sense.I doubt it. Look at high-latitude railroads that have been built, like BAM. The railroad was poorly built and ended up costing vastly more than projected, and has carried little traffic. Why build a railroad to Alaska, when we don't have a railroad that Amtrak can use to Phoenix?
Just like you build a BART tunnel and the Oakland Bay bridge across an active fault line and the numerous tunnels and viaducts on the Tokkaido Shinkansen across the MTL and ISTL fault lines. Of course not to mention that half the subway system in Tokyo and JR tunnels in the area are criss-crossed by relatively active fault lines, one of which broke to cause the Richter 7 aftershock in Kanto north of Tokyo after the off shore 9 event.How can you build the BS tunnel under or over a Active fault line?
The BART transbay tunnel has an earthquake movement joint in the tunnel on each end. There is not an equivalent joint in the track, itself. Earthquake movement is too infrequent to justify the maintenance such a joint would need.Just like you build a BART tunnel and the Oakland Bay bridge across an active fault lineHow can you build the BS tunnel under or over a Active fault line?
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