Riding a Reserved Train with the wrong ticket

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diesteldorf

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Just wanted to share this and see if anyone else has ever done anything similar. I realize I could've been denied or kicked off the train as this is against Amtrak's official policy.

I was working until 10PM, my normal schedule, on 12/23 and had planned to go home on 12/24 to visit family for the holidays. I was planning to take the #8 EB from La Crosse (10:47 AM) to Tomah (11:30 AM) and then board a bus going home around 4:00 PM. However, I knew that #8 was probably going to be delayed that morning and later found out that they were substituting buses. I was concerned, so I called the 800# at around 5:00 PM on 12/23 and asked what time #7 had left Chicago. I was told it hadn't and would probably be delayed until after 7:00 PM.

I did the math and hatched a new plan....

Realizing that it would not arrive into La Crosse until after midnight (actually after 1:00 AM in reality) I realized I could work a regular day, go home, pack, and still be able to catch #7 from La Crosse to Minneapolis. I could then catch an early bus from St Paul to home and arrive that much sooner.

The problem that I had was that the train for 12/23 had been blocked out and all seats were showing as sold.

I also discovered that they were going to run that train to Minneapolis only and stop. I assume that all passengers that were going further were accomodated overnight and made to wait for the 12/24 train but I can't confirm.

When I checked the fair for 12/24, I discovered that the fair from La Crosse to Minneapolis was still at the lowest bucket so I made a reservation.

Later that night, I called the La Crosse station, explained my situation, and asked if it was feasible and likely that the conductor would allow me to board the 12/23 train using a ticket from 12/24.

They told me it was up to the conductor's discretion....

I decided to take the chance and showed up around 12:20 AM to catch the (now shortened) EB from La Crosse to Minneapolis.

It was crazy because the #8 from 12/23 was delayed by more than 17 hours as well. It was scheduled to arrive at 10:47 AM on 12/23 and had not arrived when I showed up. In the end it was delayed until around 3:00 AM There were passengers waiting for both trains.

When #7 did roll in around 1 AM, I handed the conductor (actually an AC, I believe) my ticket. I know him from many previous trips both on the EB and Hiawatha (he is assiged to it on Sundays) so he didn't say anything and I had no trouble boarding. Later, when I was safely aboard the train, I told him of my circumstances and that my ticket was actually for 12/24. He didn't care and told me how surprised the crew was when it had been decided to stop the train in Minneapolis.

He told me that it would be taken back to Chicago as the #8 train the next morning. I guess that if you are late enough, you're actually on time again... :)

Long story short, the EB arrived into Minneapolis (actually St Paul) station at 5:00 AM. I caught my bus and was able to arrive home much earlier than expected. If I had known about the impending delays in advance, I would've purchased a ticket on the 12/23 #7 before it had been blocked/sold out. However, who figures that a train originating in Chicago will be delayed by over 6 hours twice in the same week before it reaches La Crosse.

It will be interesting to see when the ticket posts to AGR. I am counting ojn the points and hope there won't be a problem.
 
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Most of the Conductors out there will honor a ticket for the wrong day. This is not a solid guarantee. On the NEC I think you'd have a lot more trouble than you would outside of the corridor. For example, trying to ride an Acela on a Regional ticket probably ain't going to fly. However trying to ride 98 a day earlier or day later you probably won't encounter a problem. You're still traveling on the same train between the same points, just on a different day. Many times there are no-shows, or the train is only one or two seats over, which doesn't create a big issue. Your ticket will go in the pouch with everyone else's to be sent on to San Antonio where it will be processed without a problem. The processing of tickets doesn't discriminate whether you rode on the right day or not. They've already got your money.
 
One year I just plumb forgot what date I'd booked my return LYH-PHL Thanksgiving ticket for. I think I'd booked it for Saturday but then become absolutely certain it was for Sunday... so certain I didn't even look at my ticket until making sure I had it Sunday morning as I headed to the station. Seeing the date on the ticket was a shocker! I boarded the train, handed my ticket to the conductor prepared to deal with whatever might happen (detraining in Charlottesville wouldn't have been the end of the world or anything), but he didn't say a thing. Boy was that embarrassing, though.
 
About 2 years ago we were riding the NEC Regional home from NYP when this fellow boarded at Newark on a NJT ticket...somehow mistook a single level Amtrak train for a two-level New Jersey Transit commuter :wacko: ....the conductor just walked away shaking his head and the guy got off at Metropark anyway...we've alway wondered if this guy was a "regular" who just hopped on whatever train was waiting at the platform :unsure:
 
Two years ago NJT barely had any two-level trains in service. If I had to guess, maybe they had a dozen or so at that point. Even today I'd guess that at least 75% of NJT's fleet is still single level cars.

Now that said, there is still a big difference between a train that say NJT on it vs. a train that says Amtrak. However, there are people out there that pay no attention. They just get on the first train that shows up without looking.
 
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