VIA seems to have removed its actual menus(!) Here is their link to meal service details. https://www.viarail.ca/en/plan/onboard-train/mealsI have been trying to locate PDFs of the ocean dining car menus. I am planning a round trip on this train for this summer.
Could you please explain in a bit more detail what you are suggesting? Thanks.why doesn't VIA just reverse train until it can arrive at location to wye train? That could be done going into destination instead of next day? Might be more available to passengers that could be getting ready to arrive at Ocean's destination.
Maybe referring to the east end of the Ocean travel - - - ?Could you please explain in a bit more detail what you are suggesting? Thanks.
There is a wye at Windsor, but you'd have to cut the engines off and run them around and you'd need the whole wye cleared - no other trains waiting (not sure if that's a busy area or not).why doesn't VIA just reverse train until it can arrive at location to wye train? That could be done going into destination instead of next day? Might be more available to passengers that could be getting ready to arrive at Ocean's destination.
I have Google map Windsor Junction and having trouble finding that WYE - there is an old CN turn table map center:There is a wye at Windsor, but you'd have to cut the engines off and run them around and you'd need the whole wye cleared - no other trains waiting (not sure if that's a busy area or not).
But yes, you could wye the inbound train at Windsor, run the locomotives around so they could pull the consist into Halifax. Then the engines run around as usual and you have the correct consist order for the next day.
Try here: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.786,-63.641,466m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttuI have Google map Windsor Junction and having trouble finding that WYE
OK - the WYE is visible as a wye but something about the tracks (roadbed) leaves much to be desired.Try here: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.786,-63.641,466m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu
It is not a good solution, 20km as the crow flies and probably 30km by rail from downtown Halifax.
That is the way VIA could mitigate the problem. Turning a train set short of Halifax would give a clear passenger amenity leaving Halifax. Open railway map seems to show the wye would be useable. As well there are 2nd tracks at the wye that would enable for locos to swap ends to allow front direction of train travel to Halifax. Or to make a quicker turn drop a loco and then after wyeing back Ocean onto that loco that could attach to end of train to control train to Halifax. With VIA's 2 engineers in train front that would quickly be doable after brake check.There is a wye at Windsor, but you'd have to cut the engines off and run them around and you'd need the whole wye cleared - no other trains waiting (not sure if that's a busy area or not).
But yes, you could wye the inbound train at Windsor, run the locomotives around so they could pull the consist into Halifax. Then the engines run around as usual and you have the correct consist order for the next day.
Turns out to be our mistake, not yours: a closer look at the satellite photo, and at the street view, shows that the wye has been disconnected from the main, though it could be reconnected if the switches were re-laid.OK - the WYE is visible as a wye but something about the tracks (roadbed) leaves much to be desired.
That would seem to be the best solution…I wonder which of those options might be the least costly?If you're going to go to that much trouble, might as well build a new track where you actually want it as build it far away. Not many options close to the historic terminal though.
well... the good news is - there wouldn't be any other trains trying to use that wye! haha.Turns out to be our mistake, not yours: a closer look at the satellite photo, and at the street view, shows that the wye has been disconnected from the main, though it could be reconnected if the switches were re-laid.
Reversing seats can be done easily - case in point the Alaska RR Gold Star bi-level cars.Turns out to be our mistake, not yours: a closer look at the satellite photo, and at the street view, shows that the wye has been disconnected from the main, though it could be reconnected if the switches were re-laid.
If you're going to go to that much trouble, might as well build a new track where you actually want it as build it far away. Not many options close to the historic terminal though.
Reversing the seats rather than rotating the train sure looks like the way to go.
Another one might be restricting the recline ability of the seats that are now back to back. If the turned row was against the forward bulkhead, it wouldn't matter much, but if I was in a row directly ahead of the turned row, I would not be happy....One drawback of reversing seats maybe the reduction of under seat storage.
It's a shame that service to Yarmouth does not run anymore especially since the CAT ferry from Bar Harbor now terminates there, with no good non-car alternatives to travel from Yarmouth .If I am remembering correctly, Windsor Junction is about 12 miles west of Halifax. In the late 1980s, the westbound Atlantic was scheduled to cover the distance in 19 minutes. It stopped there to pick up passengers connecting from the train up from Yarmouth, which rolled through that junction on its way to Halifax. I made the connection myself once, along with a bunch of other people, in the fall of 1989, a few months before the end of service to Yarmouth. By then the Windsor Junction station had been demolished and replaced by some kind of metal bunker
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