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    Amtrak Dining and Cafe Service discussion 2024 H1

    Aramark doesn’t sell food in the same manner as Sysco - they really are not in the same business. Aramark is an outsourcing company not a food company. They may sell some pre prepared meal products to their customers but they’re very different from Sysco. Sysco is a provider of raw food stuffs...
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    Amtrak Dining and Cafe Service discussion 2024 H1

    Whether flex or the cafe car is "worse" is fairly subjective and highly dependent on one's individual tastes or food choices. In general I'm going to go for a full meal for dinner over a microwave gas station burger or hot dog. But if one cannot eat or does not have an interest in any of the...
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    Amtrak Dining and Cafe Service discussion 2024 H1

    There is a hint in RPA’s hotline that eventual menu and portion size changes being a part of it. So they could conscievably totally change the actual meal to make it more suitable to this format / maybe something more like the pre flex Diner lite on the lake shore and Crescent and still just...
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    Amtrak Dining and Cafe Service discussion 2024 H1

    RPA confirmed in today’s hotline that effective June 1 the Crescent will receive a Viewliner 2 dining car back to the consist. Flex dining will continue to be served in the diner but it will be fully plated with table cloths, flowers on the table, etc. They have recently introduced this new...
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    California Zephyr discussion 2023 Q4 - 2024 H1

    Also were you on the lower level? I've noticed in the lower level rooms it's way rougher than upstairs.
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    Sightseer Lounge etiquette

    Well hopefully they’ve realized that too and that’s why they’re trying out bringing it back and hopefully it will expanded across the route and to other routes as well.
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    Sightseer Lounge etiquette

    Upon closer inspection of the comments they talked to the staff member and it sounds like it's a new happy hour pilot program that they are experimenting with on that leg of that route. The new long distance equipment is talking about having a bar in the lounge as a major concept so maybe...
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    Southwest Chief discussion Q4 2023 - 2024

    Huh? A whole lot of assumptions being made there. Securing alternative bus transportation has not been as much of a sure thing since the pandemic.
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    Amtrak Dining and Cafe Service discussion 2024 H1

    Last time I had flex was on the Crescent - I don't see it as much because the Silvers, which are the LD trains I take most frequently, have traditional dining again. The chicken enchiladas I found halfway decent. The chicken parm was alright too, Those are the only two I tried on the current...
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    Airline food vs. Amtrak's flex

    I think from the point of view of comparison it depends on how you look at it. Some of the airlines offer complementary snacks and soft drinks which Amtrak doesn't yes (not all of course with low cost carriers like Spirit charging.) However if you consider it from the point of view of what's...
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    Airline food vs. Amtrak's flex

    I think another thing I'd say is this. Don't get me wrong - I'm not morally dead set against the idea. I just think sometimes with some of these things related to OBS it's about choosing your battles. One thing with F&B is that as long as threads exist here about food and dining someone will...
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    Airline food vs. Amtrak's flex

    Sleeper fares are market and demand based and priced based on what the market will bear. This is why people are complaining so much about what the sleeper fares are. Coach fares are kept relatively flat to keep the coach seats relatively accessible as part of their essential service mission on...
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    Adirondack discussion

    The engineers are already based in Brattleboro so if they were going to do something it may end up being there. The union has fought to protect the Brattleboro crew base when management has in the past looked at moving the engineers to Springfield like the conductors are. Another possibility is...
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    Airline food vs. Amtrak's flex

    Why should Amtrak long distance coach passengers get complementary items? If you take into account what one can purchase in the cafe there are way more options than what's available on domestic coach. You're paying for it one way or the other. Amtrak long distance coach fares are highly...
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    Amtrak Dining and Cafe Service discussion 2024 H1

    Amtrak decides the menus and chooses the product internally. Aramark's role at Amtrak is basically just a logistical middle man operating the commissaries for them. The flexible dining meals are not produced internally by Aramark - they are the product of another vendor. They may use some...
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    Adirondack discussion

    The engineers wouldn’t have to go quite as far as the Vermonter engineers are out of Brattleboro. The northbound job lays over in St. Albans like the Springfield based conductors do. The southbound job runs down to Springfield on the southbound train and then takes the northbound back to...
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    More trouble for Boeing

    None of this stuff helps with my flying anxiety and makes me want to fly anytime soon let me tell you. Sad to see how far they have fallen.
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    Adirondack discussion

    That's been suggested a number of times in Mass with putting intercity rail projects and managing Amtrak under the MBTA but MassDOT has always cited the differences in grant writing as the reason for keeping it separate - essentially in that the transit agencies are normally writing grants to...
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    New train (40-41 Floridian) between Miami and Chicago via Washington DC

    The million dollar question would be if this comes to pass would it only be during the tunnel work and would they revert back to Superliners on the Capitol when it's done, or would they keep the Cap on single level equipment and just eliminate the run through at the end. I guess we'll find out...
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    Airo - Amfleet I replacement Siemens Inter City Trainsets (ICT) (2-3Q 2024)

    The path for the single level LD has also not been set. Amtrak is considering two paths for the single level fleet - one of which is a full scope RFP similar to what they're doing for the bilevels that would cover the whole program and essentially replace everything (Viewliner 2s would continue...
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