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Not a she. A he, at least most of the time.I PMed the AGR insider about the PVD - Houston trip and she said she would check with operations and get back to me.
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Not a she. A he, at least most of the time.I PMed the AGR insider about the PVD - Houston trip and she said she would check with operations and get back to me.
I hear you, but it has less to do with the sheer number of unbookable city pairs and more to do with theThe issue goes beyond a few isolated city pairs,
Hate to burst your bubble, but that just isn't true. Amtrak's "best customers" are the ones who consistently spend the most moneyThey are ALL Equally Important to Amtraks Best Customers,
While what you say is all very true, remember that the Cascades run from SEA to VAC is a special route! Thus it is 1,500 coach or 2,000 BC. It may be worth it to use points if a thru award can't be used.Well, it's a family of four, and the same situation would apply both ways, and if I was looking at BC (which is what I'd be getting if AGR would give it to me) I'd be looking at a total of $408 at the low bucket. Without BC, I'm still looking at $180. Whether or not that's very much is all relative of course, but it's enough that I'd definitely consider slumming it on the bus.I agree with you that taking the train would be nicer, but even if you can't get AGR to give it to you, it wouldn't cost very much to pay cash.I'm planning a trip from Tucson to Vancouver BC. The only published routing is the CS to the Thruway bus (since the CS gets in too late to take the Cascades). I'd rather take the train that leaves the next morning.
Please don't apologize for being argumentative. After all, my post was an argument.Thanks! But doesn't the exception for sleeping accommodations allow for a route that's not "published"? Also, what would the purpose of the "23.5 hour" rule be?
I'm not trying to be argumentative--I've never used AGR so I have zero experience with it--but I don't understand why these exceptions are stated if they only cover what's already covered, so to speak.
Drat!!
Where a published route requires a connection between two segments, a later connecting service may be chosen as long as it departs on the same date as the connection originally offered.
[*]Where a published route contains a valid connection of 23 hours, 30 minutes or less, an overnight stay in the connecting city is permitted at the passenger's own expense. (Example: one-way travel from New York to El Paso, where the published route requires an overnight connection in New Orleans, would be permitted on the same redemption.)
Yes, but circle route redemptions aren't legal. KCY-CBS isn't a 3-zone redemption, rather it's two redemptions, one two-zone and one one-zone. A pedantic distinction without much difference perhaps, but a distinction nonetheless.Circle routes are still legal; you are just billed for each Zone you pass through. In the case of the Columbus, that is now clarified to be a 3 Zone Redemption-Middle, West, Middle.
I can't understand why Amtrak doesn't have all reasonable routes and city pairs programmed into Arrow, either. Granted, it's a job that would take some time initially, but it doesn't seem it would be an especially difficult task for an IT person. No doubt Amtrak loses paying customers because they think, "I can't get there from here."The issue goes beyond a few isolated city pairs,
Yeah, I don't really get why there are city pairs that are otherwise valid but not programmed into the booking
system. After all, there are a finite number of city pairs and a finite number of trains. And Amtrak schedules,
particularly LD trains, rarely change significantly, so you could basically program in all the city pairs once and
make changes only when the rare schedule change demands it. But, I'm not an IT person so I don't know
what all's involved.
I'm not sure I'm following this. I thought Amamba was trying to invoke the sleeper exception because the published route includes the bus segment without sleepers. What I would be afraid of is that a slick agent would counter that the alternative does not have sleepers on all segments (i.e, PVD to NYP). The exception does not allow for itineraries that are a lot more sleeper or sleeper all except a segment you wouldn't need a sleeper for anyway.I don't think that you can book one redemption PVD-HOS, since it's not a published route. The exception they give (PDX-KGM) doesn't apply because that is a published route.
Really? Many AgR insider posts are signed Becky.Not a she. A he, at least most of the time.I PMed the AGR insider about the PVD - Houston trip and she said she would check with operations and get back to me.
Not in at least the last 6 months. I don't think I've seen a "Becky" post since at least October of last year.Really? Many AgR insider posts are signed Becky.Not a she. A he, at least most of the time.I PMed the AGR insider about the PVD - Houston trip and she said she would check with operations and get back to me.
Could be, and Vickie is still there. She was Beckie's boss.Maybe she's thinking of Vickie? Doesn't she do a bunch of that?
But buying a circle itinerary is legal, that is why it is still there as a legal route in the reservation systm. Afterall everyone is not like the_traveler, using Amtrak only with AGR redemptions.Yes, but circle route redemptions aren't legal. KCY-CBS isn't a 3-zone redemption, rather it's two redemptions, one two-zone and one one-zone. A pedantic distinction without much difference perhaps, but a distinction nonetheless.Circle routes are still legal; you are just billed for each Zone you pass through. In the case of the Columbus, that is now clarified to be a 3 Zone Redemption-Middle, West, Middle.
Very true. At present, Arrow sometimes spits out some crazy routings, like this one that came up yesterday while I was considering a Thanksgiving trip.Also, it will force Amtrak to look at adding aditional routes into Arrow. This will help with the casual user that may punch into Amtrak their rounte and it gives them something that may not be the best.
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