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Looks like Amtrak plans to fix the wrecked Talgo cabcar. The cab has been cut off and stored behind the Seattle maintenance shop. The rest of the unit is covered with tarps and still hooked to the train set. I cannot get a good picture of it yet as it is on a sideline with other passenger coaches around it.
 

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The Mt. Bachelor, the Talgo that hit the tree and badly damaged its cab car, is supposed to be back sometime next month. We'll learn shortly if that time has slipped. That's a lot of why only one of Seattle's Horizon trainsets still has four coaches, and that set is usually on the 516-519 turn between Seattle and Vancouver, BC. All the rest of the trainsets have only three coaches now. That's because several coaches are out of service and three had to be pulled from other sets to create a seventh Horizon set to sub for the Mt. Bachelor. Chicago did send Horizon club-dinettes 58002 and 58007 to enable that extra Horizon set, plus give Seattle a spare club-dinette.
 
Making plans for my cross Canada trip in a couple of months. It has been some 17 years since my last trip north of the border and I know much has changed. Other than a passport, anything else to grease the skids at US customs in Vancouver on my return? Considering getting Global Entry on general principles but not sure that helps in this instance as it is not listed as one of the accepted documents on the Amtrak website. I looked at NEXUS but that requires an interview with Canadian authorities which wouldn't be practical on this trip, though maybe down the road. A lot of logistics to consider when applying and interviewing for both GE and NEXUS.

I'm flying into Montreal and note that Canada has the ArriveCan app which looks to be a convenient entry tool there.
 
Making plans for my cross Canada trip in a couple of months. It has been some 17 years since my last trip north of the border and I know much has changed. Other than a passport, anything else to grease the skids at US customs in Vancouver on my return? Considering getting Global Entry on general principles but not sure that helps in this instance as it is not listed as one of the accepted documents on the Amtrak website. I looked at NEXUS but that requires an interview with Canadian authorities which wouldn't be practical on this trip, though maybe down the road. A lot of logistics to consider when applying and interviewing for both GE and NEXUS.

I'm flying into Montreal and note that Canada has the ArriveCan app which looks to be a convenient entry tool there.
There is no separate NEXUS line at Pacific Central Station. GE members could use it if there were (entering the US). You stand in the same line as everyone else as a NEXUS or GE member. BC kind of lets you cut the line as the BC and coach lines merge into one line for US border inspection after Amtrak check in.

I use the Cascades to/from Vancouver pretty regularly. US CBP at Pacific Central are usually about as laid back as CBP ever gets. They are typically quick and reasonably polite. Historically, it was CBSA there that had tended to be overly officious, though their attitude at Pacific Central has seems to have mellowed since service resumed after COVID.

I wouldn't bother with either GE or NEXUS just to ease the US inspection at Pacific Central because they really don't do much, if anything, to improve or speed up the experience there. The main actual benefit of the Trusted Traveler programs is the special, speedier lines. Those don't exist at Pacific Central. A passport works just fine.

I am a NEXUS cardholder and use it at Pacific Central primarily because it is card sized and always in my wallet, so it is handy to pull out. I wouldn't feel disadvantaged using my passport, though. The main utility of the NEXUS card for me is the access to NEXUS lanes at vehicle crossings. Those save loads of time and trouble. Unless you plan on crossing relatively frequently by car, there is not a lot of point in getting a NEXUS card, IMHO.

Finally, a GE card would work just fine entering the US, both at booking and at the station, if you had one. It is a DHS Trusted Traveler card, just like those NEXUS and SENTRI cards listed. On the website, you just check the Trusted Traveler card option and enter the PASSID on the back of the GE card. At the Pacific Central Station Amtrak doesn't do much with ID, they've got CBP 25 feet behind them that is really handling the documents.
 
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I am a NEXUS cardholder and use it at Pacific Central primarily because it is card sized and always in my wallet, so it is handy to pull out. I wouldn't feel disadvantaged using my passport, though. The main utility of the NEXUS card for me is the access to NEXUS lanes at vehicle crossings. Those save loads of time and trouble. Unless you plan on crossing relatively frequently by car, there is not a lot of point in getting a NEXUS card, IMHO.

I've got a passport card. Kind of convenient to have since it fits nicely in my wallet, where I just got one for a bit more ($30) with my last passport renewal. Haven't crossed to/from Canada via rail, but have used it several times by car or ferry. Never had a problem with it as CBP and CBSA are quite familiar with it. Never had TSA (or contracted airport security) look at it funny as they're all trained to recognize it and probably see it often enough.
 
I’m looking at the cascades service from Vancouver,BC to Seattle in July. It’s showing business class is sold out every day. I’m assuming both the morning and evening trains are horizons with no Business class. Is this correct?
 
I’m looking at the cascades service from Vancouver,BC to Seattle in July. It’s showing business class is sold out every day. I’m assuming both the morning and evening trains are horizons with no Business class. Is this correct?

The Horizons have Business Class, but only 19 seats. They may truly be sold out for this popular travel period.
 
I’m looking at the cascades service from Vancouver,BC to Seattle in July. It’s showing business class is sold out every day. I’m assuming both the morning and evening trains are horizons with no Business class. Is this correct?
The Horizons have Business Class, but only 19 seats. They may truly be sold out for this popular travel period.
As @Maglev points out, Horizon BC capacity is extremely limited (I honestly thought it's even less than 19). July is cruise season, and the Cascades between Seattle and Vancouver is very, very popular with cruisers, especially Business Class. It is in no way surprising that the limited BC capacity is already sold out for July. All those trains will almost certainly sell out completely in coach as well.

Personally, I tend not to ride the Cascades to Vancouver in the summer since the train is usually stuffed to the gills.
 
I wouldn’t but we are arriving from Toronto on the Canadian the day before we catch the 4:45 cascades. We can fly home from Seattle for 1/3 the cost of flying back from Vancouver.

My first choice would have been to rent a car because I’ve been delayed twice by a stuck drawbridge on that route. But it’s not possible to rent a car from Canada to the United States.
 
Don't they run buses between Vancouver and Seattle? Pacific Central Station does appear to be more of an intercity bus terminal that a train station, with only 2 daily round trip trains to Seattle and 2 round trips per week of the Canadian to Toronto. But there seemed to be a lot of coach buses hanging around. Surely some of them go to Seattle.
 
Don't they run buses between Vancouver and Seattle? Pacific Central Station does appear to be more of an intercity bus terminal that a train station, with only 2 daily round trip trains to Seattle and 2 round trips per week of the Canadian to Toronto. But there seemed to be a lot of coach buses hanging around. Surely some of them go to Seattle.
There are 4 Amtrak Thruway/Cantrail buses a day each day between Seattle's King Street Station and Vancouver's Pacific Central. They make no intermediate US stops and one additional stop in Canada (the Sandman Inn in Richmond not far from YVR).
 
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