I think…like the grits thing…it’s a personal rule, as I’ve never heard of either in all my travels except for that particular dining car attendant. I don’t think I did anything to make him mad. I even left a tip! Could be they were just running short of grits… now That I’m talking about it…I’ll just go make some now!
Amtrak dining and cafe service
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If I was traveling alone but seated with another person I would prefer conversation but in the current situation where people are seated apart I might want a book or to use my phone or a tablet to catch up on AU posts for example.I agree that it's silly to have it as a rule, but it's also silly the way some antisocial people hide behind their phone or tablet as if nobody is seated with them. If someone wants no social contact they should get their food to go instead of pretending they're seated alone despite all evidence to the contrary.
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I have never seen this on Amtrak. I've been at dinner in the before-times where each of the other strangers at the table was on their phone or reading a book so they could avoid talking to strangers. And I've been on where someone used their phone to help everyone figure out where we were and how far behind.
this is a silly rule, and I suspect it's at the caprice of the person running the dining car. Especially now when people are seated alone - it's a stupid rule
I wonder if it was established on trains where people were clogging up the dining car by sitting there while done eating - or eating more slowly than they would otherwise - and the crew thought by banning books and devices it'll turf people out faster.
I usually take my Kindle in case I’m stuck with people who don’t socialize. I usually get in there quickly enough I get a window. Then if I’m with anti social people I look out the window. Thank if we stop for along time I have something to read.
When some people get on their phones they have no regard for others who don't want to hear what's going on in that person's life. It seems like the person on the phone could care less and wants everyone to hear their conversation in stores, restaurants, etc. Perhaps Amtrak wants to spare the other diners from having to listen to those conversations. Just a thought.
Well you are right about phones, I’ve met those people before. As a reticent person, it amazes me how “unedited“ some folks can be.…but it’s an iPad I’m talking about….generally I’m looking at it and not talking to it. At any rate…I should just be looking out the window Anyway. Life is short and getting shorter!
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I have had an iPad with a moving map setup leaning against the window at a Diner table and there have been folks at the table who loved it and others who were too busy messaging on their Smartphones. I think a new norm in the age of hand held devices and wearables is yet to crystallize as far as their usage in a communal situation goes.
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Yes I love the map and seeing where we are. I’ll join you for dinner anytime! It will indeed be interesting to see how it all works out. I like talking to my dining companions, looking out at the scenery, but when alone it’s also nice to check the news or even just check the map and see where we are and when the sunrise and sunset is going to be. I do love to watch the sunrise and the sunset from the train…although despite the best laid plans I often miss the former!
I do the map on my iPhone. Usually never noticed unless someone asks where we are. Then I look and tell them.
In less than two weeks, we'll be on the Crescent. Almost have myself talked into the microwave version of the french toast. lol.
As far as communal dining is concerned, we enjoy it. Have met some really cool people, and some head cases too.
As far as communal dining is concerned, we enjoy it. Have met some really cool people, and some head cases too.
The Crescent is the one big named train I’ve never done. Unfortunately they don’t have the full diner experience I think…which is criminal for a train that goes to New Orleans. Someday all the trains will have a diner and an observation car, you will be able to go all the way from downtown San Francisco to Miami, there will be wine tasting in the Pacific Parlor car, and we will always be on time! But…until then, I’ll keep riding anyway!
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There has been discussion on a cruise oriented message board about how cruising/traveling seems to make it, somehow, more easy to open and have a conversation with other travelers. That has been my experience for certain. And, it applies only to traveling by train or during a cruise. I have attempted trying to have a brief conversation with seatmates when I have flown. The great majority of time, it's been unsuccessful. But, if I am sitting at the bar in an airline's loyalty flyers lounge, (such as Sky Club) or at the bar in an airport's lounge, conversation is not so difficult to get started.
Some of us would not call such behavior "silly". Some of us would call their behavior "rude".
Ps…is it even POSSIBLE to have ”dinner in the diner, nothing could be finer….than to have your ham and eggs in North Carolina”…
You can have microwaved french
You can have microwaved french toast and a microwaved omelette in the Carolinas going East. I broke many a fork attempting to eat them. I also had one of the surliest sleeping car attendants on my Crescent trip last year.
We'll be taking it from CLT to NYP. We'll get breakfast and lunch. Last fall when we were on the Crescent, we got to have our flex meals in the cafe car. They shutdown the cafe car to coach passengers, for about 2 hours. Both microwaves running non-stop heating up flex meals for us sleeper passengers.
I won't mention names, but I think I know who you are talking about.
And that is a sad testimony…because I had that same experience on the Zephyr this weekend. Personalities matter. I know this might be controversial, but I really truly resent having to tailor my experience to the mood of the OBS that day. Had a bad day? Deal with it…we all do so somtimes.
Maybe you are badly trained…misinformed? I don’t know what but with the minimal staffing and lack of supervision one bad egg (not provided with the continental breakfast) can just ruin the whole trip. And it’s more than just irritating when you are paying $500 for a roomette. I want a modicum of service thank you very much. I want some grits with my eggs and a look at my iPad.
I want you to do your job…that is it. All I’m asking.
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Hasn't community seating been back for a while? Or is it still up to the crews..
I believe we're talking about people texting and reading things on their phone, not having a conversation.
Personally, I usually have my phone there to take pictures of the food and passing scenery, and also check a moving map. Sometimes I'll also check other things while it's open. However, when seated with people who enjoy socializing, I will of course listen and partake in their conversation. Last summer on the Chief I was seated with a very friendly Amtrak engineer based in Reno and his wife, I loved the conversation with them (and we were all loving the then-newish traditional dining).
Well upon a few listenings, I got the song wrong! It’s just Carolina! North or South…both great states I hope to visit some day
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Per management policy - Amtrak crews are not supposed to be requiring communal dining. Communal dining is only to occur if parties voluntarily or specifically ask to be seated together.
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If they aren’t going to allow coach passengers to sit in the diner that means they have the space to allow parties to sit alone. That’s a great improvement in service.
I have had a great time sharing a table on Amtrak but I’ve also had some awkward experiences and honestly would rather eat alone most of the time.
I have had a great time sharing a table on Amtrak but I’ve also had some awkward experiences and honestly would rather eat alone most of the time.
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Fair point, but I think it's better to accommodate passengers wishing to dine alone with room service than by banning coach passengers from the dining car entirely.
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