More park/parlour trivia.
First - I mis-spoke. VIA had bought 8 US domes in anticipation of needing more cars. With the cutbacks, they were never used and were sold back to the US in the last year or so. Gateway/Butterworth was involved in many/most of them, but "Silver Sky" that I said he bought was bought by someone else.
As far as the "Parks" - i.e. dome/sleeper/round-end obs, CP built 18 - 7 for the Canadian, 8 for the Dominion, 2 for Toronto service (others worked Vancouver/Montreal) and 1 spare. 1 was wrecked, 1 is in a Canadian museum and 2 have been sold to US buyers with 14 active. The 7 "CZ" cars (virtually identical) have been covered here already (I'll be on the Silver Solarium behind SP 4449 beginning 10/13 - eat your heart out). There were seven MORE round-end dome/obs cars as well (not sleepers). The first was the tail car on the original GM "Train of Tomorrow". There were 3 for the "Chessie" that never saw service there and ended up on the D&RGW with vestibules built so they could run mid-train, one for the Wabash "BlueBird", and Silver View and Silver Vista for the "Twin Zephyr".
There were also a number of "square-end" dome/obs cars (UP had a bunch) plus Denver Zephyr, KC Zephyr, etc, and of course MANY round-end and square-end obs cars WITHOUT domes.
ATSF built 6 full sets of hi-levels to cover chiago-west coast service. Amtrak only needed 4 lounges (parlors) for the Coast Starlight so modified 5 (1 protection car). The 6th lounge is in private ownership. There were also 6 diners, but they are also all in private hands.
First - I mis-spoke. VIA had bought 8 US domes in anticipation of needing more cars. With the cutbacks, they were never used and were sold back to the US in the last year or so. Gateway/Butterworth was involved in many/most of them, but "Silver Sky" that I said he bought was bought by someone else.
As far as the "Parks" - i.e. dome/sleeper/round-end obs, CP built 18 - 7 for the Canadian, 8 for the Dominion, 2 for Toronto service (others worked Vancouver/Montreal) and 1 spare. 1 was wrecked, 1 is in a Canadian museum and 2 have been sold to US buyers with 14 active. The 7 "CZ" cars (virtually identical) have been covered here already (I'll be on the Silver Solarium behind SP 4449 beginning 10/13 - eat your heart out). There were seven MORE round-end dome/obs cars as well (not sleepers). The first was the tail car on the original GM "Train of Tomorrow". There were 3 for the "Chessie" that never saw service there and ended up on the D&RGW with vestibules built so they could run mid-train, one for the Wabash "BlueBird", and Silver View and Silver Vista for the "Twin Zephyr".
There were also a number of "square-end" dome/obs cars (UP had a bunch) plus Denver Zephyr, KC Zephyr, etc, and of course MANY round-end and square-end obs cars WITHOUT domes.
ATSF built 6 full sets of hi-levels to cover chiago-west coast service. Amtrak only needed 4 lounges (parlors) for the Coast Starlight so modified 5 (1 protection car). The 6th lounge is in private ownership. There were also 6 diners, but they are also all in private hands.
