Amtrak Roster Fleet Reviews for East LD Routes

[JoshP]

I am reviewing the Amtrak Rooster Fleet of the cars for East LD routes what they used have before the pandemic and after so you can get the idea. If you see error, please let me know so I can make corrections. I want to compare what the difference in between when Amtrak decide to make the cuts.



50/51 - Cardinal

BEFORE

• Locomotive
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Cafe Car
• Dining Car
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Baggage Car

AFTER

• Locomotive
• Coach
• Coach
• Cafe Car
• Dining Car
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner II Sleeper
• Baggage Car

79/80 - Carolinian

BEFORE

• Locomotive
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Business
• Cafe Car
• Baggage Car

AFTER

• Locomotive
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Business
• Cafe Car
• Baggage Car

19/20 - Crescent

BEFORE

• Locomotive
• Locomotive
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Cafe Car
• Dining Car
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Baggage Car

AFTER

• Locomotive
• Locomotive
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Cafe Car
• Dining Car
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Baggage Car

48/49 - Lake Shore Limited

BEFORE

• Locomotive
• Locomotive
• Sleeper (Boston Section)
• Cafe (Boston Section)
• Coach (Boston Section)
• Coach (Boston Section)
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Cafe Car
• Dining Car
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Baggage Car

AFTER

• Locomotive
• Locomotive
• Coach (Boston Section)
• Coach (Boston Section)
• Cafe Car (Boston Section)
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Dining Car
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Baggage Car

89/90 - Palmetto

BEFORE

• Locomotive
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Cafe Car / Business Class
• Baggage Car

AFTER

• Locomotive
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Cafe Car / Business Class
• Baggage Car

91/92 - Silver Star

BEFORE:

• Locomotive
• Locomotive
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Cafe Car
• Dining Car
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Baggage Car

AFTER:

• Locomotive
• Locomotive
• Coach
• Coach
• Cafe Car
• Dining Car
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Baggage Car

97/98 - Silver Meteor

BEFORE:

• Locomotive
• Locomotive
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Cafe Car
• Dining Car
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Baggage Car

AFTER:

• Locomotive
• Locomotive
• Coach
• Coach
• Cafe Car
• Dining Car
• Viewliner II Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner II Sleeper
• Baggage Car

 

[BlackDiamond]

For the LSL I don't believe there was ever a cafe in the NY section, only the Boston section.

There was at one time a Boston baggage car, not sure when that was taken off, may have been before the COVID reductions.

Also the Boston sleeper is still at the front of the train behind the engines. At least it was in September when I took it last.

 

[Ryan]

 

[Just-Thinking-51]

For the LSL I don't believe there was ever a cafe in the NY section, only the Boston section.

There was at one time a Boston baggage car, not sure when that was taken off, may have been before the COVID reductions.

Also the Boston sleeper is still at the front of the train behind the engines. At least it was in September when I took it last.

Oh dear were trying to pin down the Lake Shore Limited. Will need to have a month and year to determine the correct set of equipment.

Two cafe cars in the winter? Yes.
Boston or New York in front? Both yes.
Baggage car for Boston? Yes, but when?

This train is always changing it consist. I am sure there a method to the madness, but I lack the patience to figure it out.

 

[BlackDiamond]

I think Boston is always in front because the Diesels come from/continue on to Boston whereas the NY section gets a P32ACDM for the trip down the Empire Connection and that way it only requires one switching move.

 

[MARC Rider]

The Crescent I took last June didn't have a dining car. And only two coaches. The Palmetto has a separate cafe car and a separate Amfleet 1 business class car. Not sure if it has 4 coaches or 3. The Lake Shore Limited only had 2 coaches in the New York section when I rode it last month.

 

[jis]

I am reviewing the Amtrak Rooster Fleet of the cars for East LD routes what they used have before the pandemic and after so you can get the idea. If you see error, please let me know so I can make corrections. I want to compare what the difference in between when Amtrak decide to make the cuts.



50/51 - Cardinal

BEFORE

• Locomotive
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Cafe Car
• Dining Car
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Baggage Car

AFTER

• Locomotive
• Coach
• Coach
• Cafe Car
• Dining Car
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner II Sleeper
• Baggage Car

Cardinal has not had a Dining Car for over a decade. Also it has generally been a single Sleeper train, which occasionally gets two. I believe it does tun with a Bag-Dorm these days. It getting a Viewlienr II as a second Sleeper could happen but is a matter of speculation.

79/80 - Carolinian

BEFORE

• Locomotive
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Business
• Cafe Car
• Baggage Car

AFTER

• Locomotive
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Business
• Cafe Car
• Baggage Car

Every time I have ridden it, the Cafe was between the Coaches and the Business Class. Number of Coaches of course varied and were hard to pin down.

19/20 - Crescent

BEFORE

• Locomotive
• Locomotive
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Cafe Car
• Dining Car
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Baggage Car

AFTER

• Locomotive
• Locomotive
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Cafe Car
• Dining Car
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Baggage Car

Currently it has no Diner, and often runs with a Bag-Dorm instead of a Baggage Car.

48/49 - Lake Shore Limited

BEFORE

• Locomotive
• Locomotive
• Sleeper (Boston Section)
• Cafe (Boston Section)
• Coach (Boston Section)
• Coach (Boston Section)
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Cafe Car
• Dining Car
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Baggage Car

AFTER

• Locomotive
• Locomotive
• Coach (Boston Section)
• Coach (Boston Section)
• Cafe Car (Boston Section)
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Dining Car
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Baggage Car

Cafe Car in the New York section happened over occasional periods. The norm was no Cafe.

The Cafe Car in the Boston section is a Cafe/BC.

The Boston Sleeper will always be in the front with the Boston section, never in the back. The only time it has been in the back is when temporarily the Boston section was running to New York.

It is already running with a Viewliner II Sleeper

89/90 - Palmetto

BEFORE

• Locomotive
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Cafe Car / Business Class
• Baggage Car

AFTER

• Locomotive
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Cafe Car / Business Class
• Baggage Car

Palmetto has not had a Cafe/BC in dogs years. It carries a full Capstone BC and a full Corridor Cafe. The Cafe is between the Coaches and BC AFAIR. The number of Coaches vary all the time and are hard to pin down.

91/92 - Silver Star

BEFORE:

• Locomotive
• Locomotive
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Cafe Car
• Dining Car
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Baggage Car

AFTER:

• Locomotive
• Locomotive
• Coach
• Coach
• Cafe Car
• Dining Car
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Baggage Car

Silver Star only occasionally gets a thirs Sleeper. It might become more permanent when they deploy the full available Sleeper fleet. It is already carrying a Viewliner II Sleeper. It has generally been a two Sleeper train.

97/98 - Silver Meteor

BEFORE:

• Locomotive
• Locomotive
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Coach
• Cafe Car
• Dining Car
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Baggage Car

AFTER:

• Locomotive
• Locomotive
• Coach
• Coach
• Cafe Car
• Dining Car
• Viewliner II Sleeper
• Viewliner I Sleeper
• Viewliner II Sleeper
• Baggage Car

In the last decade or so the Meteor has never been a four Sleeper train. It has occasionally got an extra one beyond its usual three. With the deployment of the full Sleeper fleet it might become a four Sleeper train.

Hope this helps.

And BTW could you change the "Rooster" in the title of this thread to "Roster"? There really are no "Roosters" involved here

 

[Tlcooper44]

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[Mailliw]

When I rode the Carolinian I'm June there was no baggage car.

 

[Ziv]

It is all fun and games until the rooster comes for you!

 

[Manny T]

Do you have this for the City of New Orleans? Thanks.

 

[PVD]

Cardinal has not had a Dining Car for over a decade. Also it has generally been a single Sleeper train, which occasionally gets two. I believe it does tun with a Bag-Dorm these days. It getting a Viewlienr II as a second Sleeper could happen but is a matter of speculation.

Every time I have ridden it, the Cafe was between the Coaches and the Business Class. Number of Coaches of course varied and were hard to pin down.

Currently it has no Diner, and often runs with a Bag-Dorm instead of a Baggage Car.

Cafe Car in the New York section happened over occasional periods. The norm was no Cafe.

The Cafe Car in the Boston section is a Cafe/BC.

The Boston Sleeper will always be in the front with the Boston section, never in the back. The only time it has been in the back is when temporarily the Boston section was running to New York.

It is already running with a Viewliner II Sleeper


Palmetto has not had a Cafe/BC in dogs years. It carries a full Capstone BC and a full Corridor Cafe. The Cafe is between the Coaches and BC AFAIR. The number of Coaches vary all the time and are hard to pin down.

Silver Star only occasionally gets a thirs Sleeper. It might become more permanent when they deploy the full available Sleeper fleet. It is already carrying a Viewliner II Sleeper. It has generally been a two Sleeper train.


In the last decade or so the Meteor has never been a four Sleeper train. It has occasionally got an extra one beyond its usual three. With the deployment of the full Sleeper fleet it might become a four Sleeper train.

Hope this helps.

And BTW could you change the "Rooster" in the title of this thread to "Roster"? There really are no "Roosters" involved here

But there is no shortage of "cackling" on the site at times....