Beech Grove Superliners

[had8ley]

The following list was supplied by Amtrak a couple of weeks ago.

Superliner LD cars now at Beech Grove;

Car # Type Repair Estimate Car Type

31006 S1 $1,321,000 Coach bag

31012 S1 $146,000 Coach bag

31026 S1 $570,000 Coach bag

31034 S1 $970,000 Coach bag

31537 S1 $2,000,000 Smoking Lounge

32014 S1 $1,890,000 Sleeper

32018 S1 $1,600,000 Sleeper

32035 S1 SCRAP Sleeper

32040 S1 $1,667,000 Sleeper

32046 S1 $1,973,000 Sleeper

32049 S1 $1,325,000 Sleeper

32065 S1 $1,368,000 Sleeper

32082 SII $146,000 Sleeper

32112 SII $1,625,000 Sleeper

32501 SII $2,170,000 Deluxe sleeper

33003 S1 $500,000 Lounge

33011 S1 $500,000 Lounge

33013 S1 $2,053,000 Lounge

33016 S1 $1,184,000 Lounge

33017 S1 $500,000 Lounge

33036 SII $1,366,000 Lounge

33045 SII SCRAP Lounge

34036 S1 SCRAP Lounge

34040 S1 $1,472,000 Coach

34051 S1 $920,000 Coach

34087 S1 $1,161,000 Coach

35005 S1 $435,000 Snack coach

35011 S1 $965,000 Snack coach

38000 S1 $600,000 Diner

38017 S1 $1,868,000 Diner

38023 S1 $382,000 Diner

38026 S1 $2,020,000 Diner

38031 S1 $1,625,000 Diner

38049 SII $1,706,000 Diner

39008 SII $1,440,000 Trans/Sleep

39020 SII $2,500,000 Trans/Sleep

39023 SII $1,578,000 Trans/Sleep

39025 & 39040 SII SCRAP Trans/Sleep

I would suspect the scrap cars are hanging around to be used for spare parts. Will be very interesting to see what comes out of Beech Grove from this list when all the repairs are complete.

 

[MrFSS]

The following list was supplied by Amtrak a couple of weeks ago. Superliner LD cars now at Beech Grove;

Car # Type Repair Estimate Car Type

31006 S1 $1,321,000 Coach bag

31012 S1 $146,000 Coach bag

31026 S1 $570,000 Coach bag

31034 S1 $970,000 Coach bag

31537 S1 $2,000,000 Smoking Lounge

32014 S1 $1,890,000 Sleeper

32018 S1 $1,600,000 Sleeper

32035 S1 SCRAP Sleeper

32040 S1 $1,667,000 Sleeper

32046 S1 $1,973,000 Sleeper

32049 S1 $1,325,000 Sleeper

32065 S1 $1,368,000 Sleeper

32082 SII $146,000 Sleeper

32112 SII $1,625,000 Sleeper

32501 SII $2,170,000 Deluxe sleeper

33003 S1 $500,000 Lounge

33011 S1 $500,000 Lounge

33013 S1 $2,053,000 Lounge

33016 S1 $1,184,000 Lounge

33017 S1 $500,000 Lounge

33036 SII $1,366,000 Lounge

33045 SII SCRAP Lounge

34036 S1 SCRAP Lounge

34040 S1 $1,472,000 Coach

34051 S1 $920,000 Coach

34087 S1 $1,161,000 Coach

35005 S1 $435,000 Snack coach

35011 S1 $965,000 Snack coach

38000 S1 $600,000 Diner

38017 S1 $1,868,000 Diner

38023 S1 $382,000 Diner

38026 S1 $2,020,000 Diner

38031 S1 $1,625,000 Diner

38049 SII $1,706,000 Diner

39008 SII $1,440,000 Trans/Sleep

39020 SII $2,500,000 Trans/Sleep

39023 SII $1,578,000 Trans/Sleep

39025 & 39040 SII SCRAP Trans/Sleep

I would suspect the scrap cars are hanging around to be used for spare parts. Will be very interesting to see what comes out of Beech Grove from this list when all the repairs are complete.

Any idea how long all this will take?

 

[sunchaser]

The following list was supplied by Amtrak a couple of weeks ago. Superliner LD cars now at Beech Grove;

Car # Type Repair Estimate Car Type

31006 S1 $1,321,000 Coach bag

31012 S1 $146,000 Coach bag

31026 S1 $570,000 Coach bag

31034 S1 $970,000 Coach bag

31537 S1 $2,000,000 Smoking Lounge

32014 S1 $1,890,000 Sleeper

32018 S1 $1,600,000 Sleeper

32035 S1 SCRAP Sleeper

32040 S1 $1,667,000 Sleeper

32046 S1 $1,973,000 Sleeper

32049 S1 $1,325,000 Sleeper

32065 S1 $1,368,000 Sleeper

32082 SII $146,000 Sleeper

32112 SII $1,625,000 Sleeper

32501 SII $2,170,000 Deluxe sleeper

33003 S1 $500,000 Lounge

33011 S1 $500,000 Lounge

33013 S1 $2,053,000 Lounge

33016 S1 $1,184,000 Lounge

33017 S1 $500,000 Lounge

33036 SII $1,366,000 Lounge

33045 SII SCRAP Lounge

34036 S1 SCRAP Lounge

34040 S1 $1,472,000 Coach

34051 S1 $920,000 Coach

34087 S1 $1,161,000 Coach

35005 S1 $435,000 Snack coach

35011 S1 $965,000 Snack coach

38000 S1 $600,000 Diner

38017 S1 $1,868,000 Diner

38023 S1 $382,000 Diner

38026 S1 $2,020,000 Diner

38031 S1 $1,625,000 Diner

38049 SII $1,706,000 Diner

39008 SII $1,440,000 Trans/Sleep

39020 SII $2,500,000 Trans/Sleep

39023 SII $1,578,000 Trans/Sleep

39025 & 39040 SII SCRAP Trans/Sleep

I would suspect the scrap cars are hanging around to be used for spare parts. Will be very interesting to see what comes out of Beech Grove from this list when all the repairs are complete.

Forgive my ignorance, but why does it cost sooo much to refurb some of these cars? Wouldn't it be cheaper to scrap some of them & buy new ones? For example, #39020, $2,500,000. That's a lot of $$$! :huh:

 

[Cho Cho Charlie]

Forgive my ignorance, but why does it cost sooo much to refurb some of these cars? Wouldn't it be cheaper to scrap some of them & buy new ones? For example, #39020, $2,500,000. That's a lot of $$$! :huh:

From my business world experience, repairs come out of a different budget than capital purchases. Even if it costs more to repair, there is far far less red tape and approvals needed.

 

[EB_OBS]

I recall earlier this year seeing a list of passenger cars that would be returned to service this year from Beachgrove.

I'm pretty sure I remember that the list didn't include any Superliner LD cars.

 

[George Harris]

The following list was supplied by Amtrak a couple of weeks ago. Superliner LD cars now at Beech Grove;

Car #...............Type...............Repair Estimate.......................Car Type

31537.................S1..................$2,000,000.......................Smoking Lounge

32046.................S1..................$1,973,000.......................Sleeper

32501.................SII.................$2,170,000.......................Deluxe sleeper

33013.................S1..................$2,053,000.......................Lounge

38017.................S1..................$1,868,000.......................Diner

38026.................S1..................$2,020,000.......................Diner

39020.................SII.................$2,500,000.......................Trans/Sleep

Forgive my ignorance, but why does it cost sooo much to refurb some of these cars? Wouldn't it be cheaper to scrap some of them & buy new ones? For example, #39020, $2,500,000. That's a lot of $$$! :huh:

All the high cost repair ones are those that would also be the most expensive to build in the first place. Notice that all are sleepers or special service cars. Also, repair work by its nature, piecemeal an not by production type measures, is more expensive per item thnt the original construction. I saw somewhere once that if you were to build an automobile from parts, it would cost about four times as much as the manufacturer's list price. Can't validate that, however.

 

[GG-1]

Forgive my ignorance, but why does it cost sooo much to refurb some of these cars? Wouldn't it be cheaper to scrap some of them & buy new ones? For example, #39020, $2,500,000. That's a lot of $$$! :huh:

From my business world experience, repairs come out of a different budget than capital purchases. Even if it costs more to repair, there is far far less red tape and approvals needed.

Aloha

I am a dreamer, but in my warped/distorted mind, this is one reason we are in this terrible economic times. Don't worry about the total picture just keep it out of my budget so I look good.

Mahalo for letting me rant.

 

[had8ley]

I recall earlier this year seeing a list of passenger cars that would be returned to service this year from Beachgrove.
I'm pretty sure I remember that the list didn't include any Superliner LD cars.

Things have changed with the new political regime i.e.; stimulus $$$. There was no inference from the official Amtrak list that any of these cars would be repaired; just my assumption from reading other posts that Beech Grove is getting ready to do some heavy duty repair work. I did see some job vacancy bulletins for Beech Grove so maybe that's a good start.

 

[sunchaser]

Forgive my ignorance, but why does it cost sooo much to refurb some of these cars? Wouldn't it be cheaper to scrap some of them & buy new ones? For example, #39020, $2,500,000. That's a lot of $$$! :huh:

From my business world experience, repairs come out of a different budget than capital purchases. Even if it costs more to repair, there is far far less red tape and approvals needed.

Aloha

I am a dreamer, but in my warped/distorted mind, this is one reason we are in this terrible economic times. Don't worry about the total picture just keep it out of my budget so I look good.

Mahalo for letting me rant.

Ah, I understand! It's not about $$$, it's the appearance that counts? I guess I wouldn't be a good choice to run things then-if they are that far gone then scrap & use for parts on the others, buy a new one!!!!! I realize some of it wouldn't be usable, just sounds like a waste of cash.

 

[AlanB]

Forgive my ignorance, but why does it cost sooo much to refurb some of these cars? Wouldn't it be cheaper to scrap some of them & buy new ones? For example, #39020, $2,500,000. That's a lot of $$$! :huh:

Sunchaser,

It's not just a matter of refurbishing these cars., all of them were involved in one wreck or another. That means that not only does Amtrak have to do a complete refurbishment of the insides of the car, they have to do varrying amounts of work to the exterior of the car. That might include straightening the frame, replacing part of the side of the car, and fixing other high cost structural problems.

Then of course they'll get new furnishings inside, especially since in many cases the insides have been exposed to the elements thanks to holes in the cars from the accidents.

One of the more expensive cars on the list is the Deluxe sleeper. This is a very unique car, there are only 5 others in the fleet, all assigned to the Auto Train. It doesn't have any roomettes on the upper level, instead it has 10 bedrooms as apposed to the normal 5. This car was heavily damaged in the Auto Train derailment about 5 years ago. It will require some major structural work, and then of course its interior will get updated with the new bathrooms. That's 10 new bathrooms on the upper level, instead of the normal 5.

 

[printman2000]

Forgive my ignorance, but why does it cost sooo much to refurb some of these cars? Wouldn't it be cheaper to scrap some of them & buy new ones? For example, #39020, $2,500,000. That's a lot of $$! :huh:

It would cost more to buy the same number of cars new than to repair these. If you buy more cars to make the price per car go down, then you still going to spend a lot more than just repairing these.

 

[AlanB]

Forgive my ignorance, but why does it cost sooo much to refurb some of these cars? Wouldn't it be cheaper to scrap some of them & buy new ones? For example, #39020, $2,500,000. That's a lot of $$$! :huh:

From my business world experience, repairs come out of a different budget than capital purchases. Even if it costs more to repair, there is far far less red tape and approvals needed.

Aloha

I am a dreamer, but in my warped/distorted mind, this is one reason we are in this terrible economic times. Don't worry about the total picture just keep it out of my budget so I look good.

Mahalo for letting me rant.

Ah, I understand! It's not about $$$, it's the appearance that counts? I guess I wouldn't be a good choice to run things then-if they are that far gone then scrap & use for parts on the others, buy a new one!!!!! I realize some of it wouldn't be usable, just sounds like a waste of cash.

Sunchaser,

By repairing these cars, Amtrak can probably have most of them back in service and earning money by the end of this year. Ordering new cars, even assuming that Amtrak had the money, would probably take at least 3 years and maybe even a bit more than that. And I'd bet that a new Deluxe Sleeper would probably cost in the neighborhood of $3 Million new anyhow. So repairing them puts people to work immediately, as opposed to a few designers drawing up plans for new cars, and it gives Amtrak a quick boost to its carrying capacity.

Additionally Amtrak can command between $200 to $500, perhaps even more for those bedrooms on the AT. If we strike a middle number of $350 that one Deluxe sleeper can collect $1.2 Million next year just on the bedrooms alone. They'll also collect still more revenue from the family room, handicapped room, and the 4 roomettes on the lower level. So in just two years, that car will have already collected enough money to pay for its restoration.

 

[AlanB]

I would suspect the scrap cars are hanging around to be used for spare parts. Will be very interesting to see what comes out of Beech Grove from this list when all the repairs are complete.

It's also possible that the scrap cars are still being held for insurance purposes too.

 

[Shanghai]

I read recently that Beech Grove will hire 180 new employees to refurbish and repair these cars.

In a normal business, there are major tax differences between buying new depreciable assets and repairing present assets.

In the case of Amtrak rolling stock, it may not differ due to their unusual tax status.

 

[sunchaser]

Forgive my ignorance, but why does it cost sooo much to refurb some of these cars? Wouldn't it be cheaper to scrap some of them & buy new ones? For example, #39020, $2,500,000. That's a lot of $$$! :huh:

From my business world experience, repairs come out of a different budget than capital purchases. Even if it costs more to repair, there is far far less red tape and approvals needed.

Aloha

I am a dreamer, but in my warped/distorted mind, this is one reason we are in this terrible economic times. Don't worry about the total picture just keep it out of my budget so I look good.

Mahalo for letting me rant.

Ah, I understand! It's not about $$$, it's the appearance that counts? I guess I wouldn't be a good choice to run things then-if they are that far gone then scrap & use for parts on the others, buy a new one!!!!! I realize some of it wouldn't be usable, just sounds like a waste of cash.

Sunchaser,

By repairing these cars, Amtrak can probably have most of them back in service and earning money by the end of this year. Ordering new cars, even assuming that Amtrak had the money, would probably take at least 3 years and maybe even a bit more than that. And I'd bet that a new Deluxe Sleeper would probably cost in the neighborhood of $3 Million new anyhow. So repairing them puts people to work immediately, as opposed to a few designers drawing up plans for new cars, and it gives Amtrak a quick boost to its carrying capacity.

Additionally Amtrak can command between $200 to $500, perhaps even more for those bedrooms on the AT. If we strike a middle number of $350 that one Deluxe sleeper can collect $1.2 Million next year just on the bedrooms alone. They'll also collect still more revenue from the family room, handicapped room, and the 4 roomettes on the lower level. So in just two years, that car will have already collected enough money to pay for its restoration.

Ok, that makes more sense to me. I do realize that getting new ones would take a while. I think it was you that pointed out on another thread that the sleepers bring in more revenue. My thought is whatever way they accomplish it, they should add more sleepers to increase revenue overall. It would help Amtrak be more financially stable. I would like to see Amtrak improve financially instead of having to limp along. And of course, in business, you try to provide goods or services that appeal to the public. I have noticed that the viewliners are short on bedrooms, and I do agree there is more than likely a need for more Deluxe Bedroom Cars!!!

I'm sure it could be a challenge to get a Viewliner Bedroom & cost quite a bit more than what most would want to pay.

Hopefully they will be able to get the repairs done fairly quickly. Does anyone know what an average turnaround on a car would be? I know it depends on what needs to be done, I'm thinking of the ones with relatively minor stuff, like upholstery, etc. You guys I'm sure would know.

 

[DAWall]

The following list was supplied by Amtrak a couple of weeks ago. Superliner LD cars now at Beech Grove;

Car # Type Repair Estimate Car Type

31006 S1 $1,321,000 Coach bag

31012 S1 $146,000 Coach bag

31026 S1 $570,000 Coach bag

31034 S1 $970,000 Coach bag

31537 S1 $2,000,000 Smoking Lounge

32014 S1 $1,890,000 Sleeper

32018 S1 $1,600,000 Sleeper

32035 S1 SCRAP Sleeper

32040 S1 $1,667,000 Sleeper

32046 S1 $1,973,000 Sleeper

32049 S1 $1,325,000 Sleeper

32065 S1 $1,368,000 Sleeper

32082 SII $146,000 Sleeper

32112 SII $1,625,000 Sleeper

32501 SII $2,170,000 Deluxe sleeper

33003 S1 $500,000 Lounge

33011 S1 $500,000 Lounge

33013 S1 $2,053,000 Lounge

33016 S1 $1,184,000 Lounge

33017 S1 $500,000 Lounge

33036 SII $1,366,000 Lounge

33045 SII SCRAP Lounge

34036 S1 SCRAP Lounge

34040 S1 $1,472,000 Coach

34051 S1 $920,000 Coach

34087 S1 $1,161,000 Coach

35005 S1 $435,000 Snack coach

35011 S1 $965,000 Snack coach

38000 S1 $600,000 Diner

38017 S1 $1,868,000 Diner

38023 S1 $382,000 Diner

38026 S1 $2,020,000 Diner

38031 S1 $1,625,000 Diner

38049 SII $1,706,000 Diner

39008 SII $1,440,000 Trans/Sleep

39020 SII $2,500,000 Trans/Sleep

39023 SII $1,578,000 Trans/Sleep

39025 & 39040 SII SCRAP Trans/Sleep

I would suspect the scrap cars are hanging around to be used for spare parts. Will be very interesting to see what comes out of Beech Grove from this list when all the repairs are complete.

I drove by Beech Grove today, from what I saw, many of the wrecks and stored Superliners have been moved. I couldn't see any numbers, but there were a few cars sticking out of the shop bays. It looks like they've started to work on at few of the cars to be put back into service. I also noticed the 8400 Viewliner diner coupled to a long string of Heritage lounge cars at the back of the shop's.

 

[mkellerm]

The following list was supplied by Amtrak a couple of weeks ago. Superliner LD cars now at Beech Grove;

Car # Type Repair Estimate Car Type

31006 * S1 $1,321,000 Coach bag

31012 S1 $146,000 Coach bag

31026 S1 $570,000 Coach bag

31034 S1 $970,000 Coach bag

31537 S1 $2,000,000 Smoking Lounge

32014 * S1 $1,890,000 Sleeper

32018 S1 $1,600,000 Sleeper

32035 S1 SCRAP Sleeper

32040 * S1 $1,667,000 Sleeper

32046 * S1 $1,973,000 Sleeper

32049 * S1 $1,325,000 Sleeper

32065 * S1 $1,368,000 Sleeper

32082 SII $146,000 Sleeper

32112 * SII $1,625,000 Sleeper

32501 * SII $2,170,000 Deluxe sleeper

33003 * S1 $500,000 Lounge

33011 * S1 $500,000 Lounge

33013 S1 $2,053,000 Lounge

33016 * S1 $1,184,000 Lounge

33017 S1 $500,000 Lounge

33036 * SII $1,366,000 Lounge

33045 SII SCRAP Lounge

34036 S1 SCRAP Lounge

34040 * S1 $1,472,000 Coach

34051 S1 $920,000 Coach

34087 * S1 $1,161,000 Coach

35005 S1 $435,000 Snack coach

35011 S1 $965,000 Snack coach

38000 S1 $600,000 Diner

38017 * S1 $1,868,000 Diner

38023 S1 $382,000 Diner

38026 * S1 $2,020,000 Diner

38031 * S1 $1,625,000 Diner

38049 * SII $1,706,000 Diner

39008 * SII $1,440,000 Trans/Sleep

39020 SII $2,500,000 Trans/Sleep

39023 * SII $1,578,000 Trans/Sleep

39025 & 39040 SII SCRAP Trans/Sleep

I would suspect the scrap cars are hanging around to be used for spare parts. Will be very interesting to see what comes out of Beech Grove from this list when all the repairs are complete.

The Amtrak ARRA project summary document listed the cars that are supposed to be repaired using recovery funds. I've added asterisks to those 20 cars. Interestingly, the dollar amounts here and the amounts listed in the project summary don't match up in general. Some of the others may already be programmed for existing funds (including the California Superliner project, which has two cars to go).

 

[Steve4031]

That is a lot of superliner cars. To get them repaired in a year would address many of the superliner car shortage issues, which would be a solid accomplishment.

And thanks to the OP and to the poster who put in the asterisks. This was enjoyable info to peruse after a day at work.

 

[Shawn]

Can anyone that lives in that area get a couple of pics of them?

 

[jis]

Interesting that they have chosen to fund many cars that are going to cost $1M+ per car out of ARRA.

When all is said and done Amtrak will have the following additional cars in service:

Deluxe Sleeper 1

Sleeper 6

Lounge 4

Diner 4

Coach 3

TransDorm 2

If you add the low cost cars that will almost inevitably get taken care of in the general budget you have the following additional:

Coach 4

Diner 2

Sleeper 1

Lounge 1

Looks like there are cars enough to add two train sets with a few to spare.

 

[pismobum]

"Some of the others may already be programmed for existing funds (including the California Superliner project, which has two cars to go)."

No way to verify the source, but allegedly 31034 and 34051 are to be 'Calif Cars'. Makes sense since each estimate is under 1 mil and neither car is on the 'stimulus list'.

Some intriguing info here. 34087 wrecked in 2004 - estimate repair was $350k. Now it's $1.1MIL! 33013 in same wreck estimate was $700k - now estimated $2.05MIL! (can you say 'inflation'? - or maybe 'second estimate!!').

32049 was not reported as in an accident, but 'FREEZE DAMAGE" in Chicago. Estimated repair $1.3MIL???

Also curious that no reported wreck I'm aware of for 32065 yet repair estimate $1.368MIL!!

 

[sechs]

Interesting that they have chosen to fund many cars that are going to cost $1M+ per car out of ARRA.

One imagines that it's a combination of those which will generate jobs plus getting this work paid out of a different budget.

 

[AlanB]

Some intriguing info here. 34087 wrecked in 2004 - estimate repair was $350k. Now it's $1.1MIL! 33013 in same wreck estimate was $700k - now estimated $2.05MIL! (can you say 'inflation'? - or maybe 'second estimate!!').

I can think of two other reasons, beyond inflation which may still be a factor in the increases.

1) Weather damage caused by the cars being left exposed for years, especially if they had open holes caused by the wreck.

2) I don't believe that the original estimates included refurbishment of the insides, which I believe all of these cars will get in addition to fixing their war wounds.

 

[had8ley]

I would suspect the scrap cars are hanging around to be used for spare parts. Will be very interesting to see what comes out of Beech Grove from this list when all the repairs are complete.

It's also possible that the scrap cars are still being held for insurance purposes too.

Very good point Alan. The CSX held the Alabama Bayou tragedy cars for quite some time both in Mobile and Gentilly yards. The T&E boys said investigators and lawyers were inspecting them almost daily.

 

[had8ley]

The following list was supplied by Amtrak a couple of weeks ago. Superliner LD cars now at Beech Grove;

Car # Type Repair Estimate Car Type

31006 * S1 $1,321,000 Coach bag

31012 S1 $146,000 Coach bag

31026 S1 $570,000 Coach bag

31034 S1 $970,000 Coach bag

31537 S1 $2,000,000 Smoking Lounge

32014 * S1 $1,890,000 Sleeper

32018 S1 $1,600,000 Sleeper

32035 S1 SCRAP Sleeper

32040 * S1 $1,667,000 Sleeper

32046 * S1 $1,973,000 Sleeper

32049 * S1 $1,325,000 Sleeper

32065 * S1 $1,368,000 Sleeper

32082 SII $146,000 Sleeper

32112 * SII $1,625,000 Sleeper

32501 * SII $2,170,000 Deluxe sleeper

33003 * S1 $500,000 Lounge

33011 * S1 $500,000 Lounge

33013 S1 $2,053,000 Lounge

33016 * S1 $1,184,000 Lounge

33017 S1 $500,000 Lounge

33036 * SII $1,366,000 Lounge

33045 SII SCRAP Lounge

34036 S1 SCRAP Lounge

34040 * S1 $1,472,000 Coach

34051 S1 $920,000 Coach

34087 * S1 $1,161,000 Coach

35005 S1 $435,000 Snack coach

35011 S1 $965,000 Snack coach

38000 S1 $600,000 Diner

38017 * S1 $1,868,000 Diner

38023 S1 $382,000 Diner

38026 * S1 $2,020,000 Diner

38031 * S1 $1,625,000 Diner

38049 * SII $1,706,000 Diner

39008 * SII $1,440,000 Trans/Sleep

39020 SII $2,500,000 Trans/Sleep

39023 * SII $1,578,000 Trans/Sleep

39025 & 39040 SII SCRAP Trans/Sleep

I would suspect the scrap cars are hanging around to be used for spare parts. Will be very interesting to see what comes out of Beech Grove from this list when all the repairs are complete.

The Amtrak ARRA project summary document listed the cars that are supposed to be repaired using recovery funds. I've added asterisks to those 20 cars. Interestingly, the dollar amounts here and the amounts listed in the project summary don't match up in general. Some of the others may already be programmed for existing funds (including the California Superliner project, which has two cars to go).

Holy boxcars Batman! They sure have added the heavy hitters in terms of cost to be repaired. The list was provided by Amtrak; I cannot provide any info as to why the estimates vary as none was given. I would like to see a diner come out for only $382,000 as opposed to the mega-millions in bucks and time it's going to take to repair some of these wrecked cars.