Thank you for your suggestions. It's my sister's first time on Amtrak but it's my.... who knows...over 20 years of riding.... I was just mainly confused about why the site wasn't showing NOR as the southern terminus.
It's NOL, not NORThank you for your suggestions. It's my sister's first time on Amtrak but it's my.... who knows...over 20 years of riding.... I was just mainly confused about why the site wasn't showing NOR as the southern terminus.
Rasputin: So glad to see someone else invoke the name W. Graham Claytor, Jr. He was, indeed, my railroad idol and would be so, so unhappy at the current operating status of "his" train. I had the rare opportunity of meeting Mr. Claytor twice: once as a passenger on the Crescent; and a second time when he attended a court hearing in Palatka FL when Putnam County Florida hauled Amtrak into court there for dumping waste on a couple of fishermen in the St. John's River.In that case, I think you will need to study the Flex menu carefully and also compare it to the cafe menu to decide what you want to eat on this trip and you should take an ample supply of snacks in case there is a shortage of items or few items that you find satisfactory.
As I understand it the Crescent has no lounge car. I do not know if the cafe car serves as a lounge car for sleeping car and coach passengers or if they are allowed to remain in the car only when dining. I understand from Tincan's post that coach passengers are not allowed in the cafe car while meals are being served to sleeping car passengers. So if you are a sleeping car passenger you may be largely confined to your room and if you are a coach passenger you may be pretty well confined to your seat.
Oh, What, Oh What, would the late W. Graham Claytor, Jr. think about the current pathetic operation of his Crescent!
Yeah that little bit of water does get in the way, I imagine. I haven't crossed it in a long time. I do occasionally cross the mouth of the big river that feeds it, though.Yes, we won't be in Oklahoma. LOL!!! I was looking to see if Baltimore was closer. But no, that annoying water in the way causes it to be father and more expensive. I have only gone into WIL once myself and I remember it wasn't bad, but my home station of CLE isn't anything to write home about. LOL!
cassie225: With all due respect to Amtrak and with service levels on some, most, or even all long distance trains at what may be a 50+ year low point, what train should one be recommending to a new rider? Is there one out there that experiencing the least service issues? Maybe some of the regular forum contributors have an opinion. I don't know.I don’t know, if this is her first experience, maybe it should not be the Crescent, I was so disappointed the last time I rode it in 2021, I’d rather ride in a car all the way to NJ and I hate long car rides with a passion.
I would have loved to start out of CLE and go west but she just did the drive here twice so it's my turn to go over there. And again, time constraints for her so the extra day to come west for her doesn't work right now. If she didn't hate Florida we would have probably taken the Silver South. No one wants to go North in Feb so that leaves the Crescent. I can only hope things improve over the next 6 months.I don’t know, if this is her first experience, maybe it should not be the Crescent, I was so disappointed the last time I rode it in 2021, I’d rather ride in a car all the way to NJ and I hate long car rides with a passion.
Amtrak is simply going in the wrong direction!In that case, I think you will need to study the Flex menu carefully and also compare it to the cafe menu to decide what you want to eat on this trip and you should take an ample supply of snacks in case there is a shortage of items or few items that you find satisfactory.
As I understand it the Crescent has no lounge car. I do not know if the cafe car serves as a lounge car for sleeping car and coach passengers or if they are allowed to remain in the car only when dining. I understand from Tincan's post that coach passengers are not allowed in the cafe car while meals are being served to sleeping car passengers. So if you are a sleeping car passenger you may be largely confined to your room and if you are a coach passenger you may be pretty well confined to your seat.
Oh, What, Oh What, would the late W. Graham Claytor, Jr. think about the current pathetic operation of his Crescent!
The Crescent never had a separate cafe car and lounge car. It has always been just one car.In that case, I think you will need to study the Flex menu carefully and also compare it to the cafe menu to decide what you want to eat on this trip and you should take an ample supply of snacks in case there is a shortage of items or few items that you find satisfactory.
As I understand it the Crescent has no lounge car. I do not know if the cafe car serves as a lounge car for sleeping car and coach passengers or if they are allowed to remain in the car only when dining. I understand from Tincan's post that coach passengers are not allowed in the cafe car while meals are being served to sleeping car passengers. So if you are a sleeping car passenger you may be largely confined to your room and if you are a coach passenger you may be pretty well confined to your seat.
Oh, What, Oh What, would the late W. Graham Claytor, Jr. think about the current pathetic operation of his Crescent!
Are sleeping car and?or coach passengers allowed to spend leisure time in the cafe car or only when they are actively eating? My impression is that on the Crescent you see a lot of the inside of your room.The Crescent never had a separate cafe car and lounge car. It has always been just one car.
Wasn't that the same incident that led to a ban on dump toilets?Rasputin: So glad to see someone else invoke the name W. Graham Claytor, Jr. He was, indeed, my railroad idol and would be so, so unhappy at the current operating status of "his" train. I had the rare opportunity of meeting Mr. Claytor twice: once as a passenger on the Crescent; and a second time when he attended a court hearing in Palatka FL when Putnam County Florida hauled Amtrak into court there for dumping waste on a couple of fishermen in the St. John's River.
That was the beginning of that, yes. I couldn't even imagine..... >_<Wasn't that the same incident that led to a ban on dump toilets?
The incident to which I referred in Palatka FL I think was 30+ years ago in December 1989. Amtrak was found guilty of "commercial littering", but how this incident played in future issues of waste dumping is unknown to me. I only remember the incident because it was big news locally (I lived in Daytona Beach FL at the time) and I attended one day of the trial.That was the beginning of that, yes. I couldn't even imagine..... >_<
Yep, this was the incident:The incident to which I referred in Palatka FL I think was 30+ years ago in December 1989. Amtrak was found guilty of "commercial littering", but how this incident played in future issues of waste dumping is unknown to me. I only remember the incident because it was big news locally (I lived in Daytona Beach FL at the time) and I attended one day of the trial.
No. It just makes a brief stop in Washington. The train originates in New York.Is the Cresent 19 Train going south to Birmingham cleaned in Washington DC?
If there's a smell, it probably isn't just your toilet, the car's sewage system is probably to blame.Thank you jimdex for the info on cleaning the Cresent in DC. The reason I asked is I am planning on getting a roomette on the Cresent 19 from DC to Birmingham and worried about the smell of the in room toilet! lol. Of course going back to DC may be a problem too. Has anyone experienced this?
Not that many people book roomettes between NYC and DC, so if you are getting on in DC, you will likely be the first person to occupy that room since it was cleaned in New York. Since roomettes are primarily used for overnight travel, it's also likely that when you get on the train in Birmingham, you will be the first person to occupy that room since it was cleaned in New Orleans.Thank you jimdex for the info on cleaning the Cresent in DC. The reason I asked is I am planning on getting a roomette on the Cresent 19 from DC to Birmingham and worried about the smell of the in room toilet! lol. Of course going back to DC may be a problem too. Has anyone experienced this?
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