Congratulations on your discovery! This is I think the longest 1 zone loophole to date.I knew a loophole routing was KCY-CBS. Just playing around, I input Kirkwood, MO (KWD - 1 stop west of STL on the RR) to CBS. And guess what? :huh:
The only choice that came up was
- KWD-KCY
- KCY-LAX
- LAX-PDX
- PDX-CBS
So I think that this can be done as a 1 zone loophole award trip!
Good find Dave!I knew a loophole routing was KCY-CBS. Just playing around, I input Kirkwood, MO (KWD - 1 stop west of STL on the RR) to CBS. And guess what? :huh:
The only choice that came up was
- KWD-KCY
- KCY-LAX
- LAX-PDX
- PDX-CBS
So I think that this can be done as a 1 zone loophole award trip!
Having just done this one in Nov. it's a great trip! One note,the River Runner to KCY is only the PM train#313,I was able to take #311 the AM train and spend the day/evening in KCY eating Bar--B-Q, seeing the Black baseball and Jazz museums and touring KCY Union Station! I'd noticed too that your title said CVS, is that wishful thinking by you planning your next tour of America? :lol: If it was actually true the Cardinal would probably have to add ten sleepers to get all the AGR riders that would flock to CVS including, ahem , me! :lol:
) Maybe I did put CVS.
These guys are on to something! While I still think NOL would be THE PLACE for the next Gathering, STL might be a good idea! With a loophole like this we'd need reserved cars for the RR/SWC/CS/EB and AGR would be millions of points lighter! Of course Amtrak would loose lots of revenue but what a trip!
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Remember, you also need to go Columbus --> Chicago for another 5.5K points or $19.
duh! obvious choice of payment there. why would the notion of using points be brought op at all for that segment. next time try to be useful.
I'm hoping to do this Loophole sometime this summer and plan to throw the 3 uncovered segments onto my AGR, thus "recovering" some of the 20,000 Points used on the Reward. While I could take the SWC CHI-KCY, I want to use the Lincoln Service/MORR Biz Class to get those routes in my book and enjoy some extra train time.
Not your friends that are reading this.Of course my friends think this is all ridiculous
Ridiculous?Of course my friends think this is all ridiculous
Let them eat cake (or rail :lol: )!I actually plan to break for a few days in Chicago and visit family but if indeed I could do CHI-KCY for 1,500 on the combined trains, may consider burning the Points. Or does that have to be booked as 2 separate segments (3,000 Points), even though I plan next train connection in STL?Ridiculous?Of course my friends think this is all ridiculous
BTW: CHI-KWD via Lincoln Service & RR would be a total of 1,000/1,500 points - if you take "the next train out"! And it should include coach or BC (if you chose the 1,500 award) on both trains! And don't forget the loophole routing includes BC on the RR!
You may be able to combine the Hiawatha from MKE to CHI and Lincoln Service to STL to make it work better for you. If someone did this based out of STL they could buy a ticket from STL to KWD, 15/20K points from KWD to CBS, another paid ticket from CBS to MKE, then 1/1.5K points from MKE to STL. The connection from the EB to Hiawatha would be a little tight, but if you don't make it you just stay on the EB since it is going to CHI anyway.I'm hoping to do this Loophole sometime this summer and plan to throw the 3 uncovered segments onto my AGR, thus "recovering" some of the 20,000 Points used on the Reward. While I could take the SWC CHI-KCY, I want to use the Lincoln Service/MORR Biz Class to get those routes in my book and enjoy some extra train time.
Of course my friends think this is all ridiculous
I find it very inspiring to be in the presence of a master at work!I knew a loophole routing was KCY-CBS. Just playing around, I input Kirkwood, MO (KWD - 1 stop west of STL on the RR) to CBS. And guess what? :huh:
The only choice that came up was
- KWD-KCY
- KCY-LAX
- LAX-PDX
- PDX-CBS
So I think that this can be done as a 1 zone loophole award trip!
Oh no now you have done it,I find it very inspiring to be in the presence of a master at work!I knew a loophole routing was KCY-CBS. Just playing around, I input Kirkwood, MO (KWD - 1 stop west of STL on the RR) to CBS. And guess what? :huh:
The only choice that came up was
- KWD-KCY
- KCY-LAX
- LAX-PDX
- PDX-CBS
So I think that this can be done as a 1 zone loophole award trip!
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Yes!Oh no now you have done it,I find it very inspiring to be in the presence of a master at work!
The_Traveler, will have to buy new hats!
Size 42! (I've got a BIG head! :lol: )I think I owe the_traveler a new hat
I'm hoping to do this Loophole sometime this summer and plan to throw the 3 uncovered segments onto my AGR, thus "recovering" some of the 20,000 Points used on the Reward. While I could take the SWC CHI-KCY, I want to use the Lincoln Service/MORR Biz Class to get those routes in my book and enjoy some extra train time.
Of course my friends think this is all ridiculous
A Fez with "AGR Guru" printed on it?I think I owe the_traveler a new hat
I just called AGR and added KWD (where I normally board) - KCY to my KCY - CBS trip - making it 116 hours on the train.
Thanks guys for showing me how its done
Why not hold "The Gathering" enroute!? AU can take over Amtrak for a week.As RRrich found out, this loophole works! And I just got a Bedroom for 5 nights for 20,000 points!
