Rail Freak
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Cheese Cake!
We've had many meals aboard Amtrak LD trains and also consider the food mediocre. I would compare it to a meal at Applebees or Fridays; not bad but far from gourmet. I didn't live during the Golden Age ". Having cooked and sampled these old recipes,from the book "Dining by Rail", I can tell you that the food back then was nothing short of outstanding. Much of it has a French flair to it but even the Fred Harvey recipes were creative and very flavorful. Reminds us of dining in our favorite upscale French restaurant that we regularly go to in New York City. Obviously that type of food may never be available on Amtrak so in view of this:I think the food in the diner is mediocre at best. Nothing there would really be on the list of things that I crave.
But I did just have an excellent "grilled chicken tandoori ceasar salad" on the acela last weekend.
Made to your liking? I requested my steak rare to medium rare - and I was served a well done piece of gristle. Nasty. :angry:Are the steaks actually cooked on board? Or how does that work since they are made to your liking?
I would have been so very unhappy :angry2:Made to your liking? I requested my steak rare to medium rare - and I was served a well done piece of gristle. Nasty. :angry:
The PPC offers a limited choice menu (usually 2 selections for breakfast, 2 for lunch and 2 for dinner) and if the train is full enough it is not uncommon to have it run out of food there.What exactly is served in the PPC?
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At first I wondered how that was possible. Then I found out that it's easy to warm frozen pancakes in microwave ovens.I 2nd the French Toast, but on my last trip they had Pancakes!
Is the worst part of the whole "dining experience" in my view. I've had lots of bad coffee in hotel lobbies all over the country and all over the world, but I feel Amtrak takes the cake when it comes to truly bad brew. Frankly, I've had better canned coffee for Pete's sake.The coffee. The coffee. The coffee.
Same here. I never knew you could screw up something as simple as an omelet or a hamburger until I ate Aramark's comical attempts at basic food. The "burger" is just as dry and tasteless as a precooked microwavable meat patty and the "omelet" looks and tastes just like fake egg substitute.I think the food in the diner is mediocre at best. Nothing there would really be on the list of things that I crave.
So far as I can tell the cooking requests are just for show. A pointless charade to make the meal look more upscale than it really is. Kind of like the powdered "mashed potatoes" and canned vegetable slop that comes with it.Are the steaks actually cooked on board? Or how does that work since they are made to your liking?
Amtrak diners on the Viewliners are all heritage equipment that were built in the 1950's and 1960's. Those "barely functional" kitchens that you refer to were used to cook some very elaborate upscale and fancy cuisine back in the day. As for the Superliners; I've been in those kitchens and they are well equipped and of decent size. All of the equipment is there to cook fine cuisine if they wanted to.The only dishes I've enjoyed thus far are the French toast and some sort of chicken and rice dish that only shows up occasionally and doesn't seem to have a specific name. Those dishes are apparently workable within the limitations of the barely functional kitchen they have on board. Everything else, and I mean everything, has been disappointing to me. A few of the frozen desserts are OK, but sometimes they even manage to screw that up. You ask for "plain cheesecake" and the Aramark cook insists on putting some sort of watery orange goop on it anyway. Why?
Could it be that by "vegetable medley" they mean that one of the dining car staff comes by and sings a medley of the following songs?On the CZ's menu, many of the dinner choices come with a "vegetable medley". Can someone tell me what veggies are in it and are they mushy, soft or crunchy?
Could it be that by "vegetable medley" they mean that one of the dining car staff comes by and sings a medley of the following songs?On the CZ's menu, many of the dinner choices come with a "vegetable medley". Can someone tell me what veggies are in it and are they mushy, soft or crunchy?
Mashed Potatoes by Dee Dee Sharp
Sweet Pea by Tommy Roe
Green Onions by Booker T & The M.G.'s
String Bean by B.B. King
Give Peas A Chance by John Lennon
We Got The Beet by The Go-Go's
Can't say anything about the CZ, but on the Silver Meteor this spring I had the "vegetable medley" (it may not have actually been called that, but it was certainly a medley of vegetables) with chicken (which was extremely good), and the vegetables were broccoli, carrots, potatoes(?)...um...I think there onions and something else, too, but the only ones I'm sure of are the carrots and broccoli...in any case, I thought it was good (except the broccoli, but I don't like broccoli anyway), the carrots were a bit crunchy but everything else was well cooked and tasted like proper vegetables.On the CZ's menu, many of the dinner choices come with a "vegetable medley". Can someone tell me what veggies are in it and are they mushy, soft or crunchy?
If only Amtrak actually had a microwave oven to use.At first I wondered how that was possible. Then I found out that it's easy to warm frozen pancakes in microwave ovens.I 2nd the French Toast, but on my last trip they had Pancakes!
The coffee used to be better before they went to the current automated machines, however Amtrak's coffee is still far from the worst. One of my clients is a coffee roaster, so I get the good stuff from him, but I've sampled many of his blends and there are some not so good. However, the worst coffee that I've ever had is served at a little bagle place in LA's Union Station. I can pretty much drink anything and that was the worst ever, and the first time I ever threw away a full cup of coffee. It was undrinkable.Is the worst part of the whole "dining experience" in my view. I've had lots of bad coffee in hotel lobbies all over the country and all over the world, but I feel Amtrak takes the cake when it comes to truly bad brew. Frankly, I've had better canned coffee for Pete's sake.The coffee. The coffee. The coffee.
It all comes down to the chef. Get the wrong one and it is for show. Get the right one and you'll get what you ordered.So far as I can tell the cooking requests are just for show. A pointless charade to make the meal look more upscale than it really is. Kind of like the powdered "mashed potatoes" and canned vegetable slop that comes with it.Are the steaks actually cooked on board? Or how does that work since they are made to your liking?
The salmon for dinner is pretty darn tastee. My understanding is that it is not precooked. Now if they would just do the same for the vegies, they would be edible. Ice cream for dessert.I like breakfast on the Empire Builder when raison bread is served.
My favorite dessert is peanut butter chocolate cake.
Salmon is my favorite dinner entree, mainly because I am allergic to garlic and most of the time all the entrees, except salmon, contain garlic. Amtrak does a pretty good job with their salmon and I would order it often even if I had other options, but not every night. :lol:
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