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Viewliners. Single level equipment is the entire point. The Cap is/was Superliners, the Star is single-level (and must be to use the Hudson River and East River tunnels in New York.) By truncating the Star at DC and combining it with the Cap there, either single-level (Viewliners and Amfleets) or bi-level (Superliners) would work, but they need more Superliners for the western trains and there is a slight surplus of single level equipment at the moment. That is part of the reason for combining the trains: the Cap Limited Superliners can go to the western routes which need them badly. (The other part of the reason, the one emphasized by Amtrak, is that the Star will no longer need to use the East River tunnels to turn in New York. One of the four East River tunnels will be closed for several years as they get rebuilt one at time, a process that is just about to start.)
All the sleepers have toilets in the Bedrooms and H Rooms. Viewliner 1 Roomettes have toilets. Viewliner 2 and Superliner Roomettes do not have toilets and use shared toilets down the hall. They will use an unpredictable assortment of Viewliner 1 and 2 on the Floridian, so the answer to your question is unknowable. Once the train starts running, people here will almost certainly post about the actual consists, and maybe a pattern will emerge, maybe not, and any such pattern will almost certainly change without warning as equipment is substituted due to breakdowns or for scheduled maintenance.
All the sleepers have toilets in the Bedrooms and H Rooms. Viewliner 1 Roomettes have toilets. Viewliner 2 and Superliner Roomettes do not have toilets and use shared toilets down the hall. They will use an unpredictable assortment of Viewliner 1 and 2 on the Floridian, so the answer to your question is unknowable. Once the train starts running, people here will almost certainly post about the actual consists, and maybe a pattern will emerge, maybe not, and any such pattern will almost certainly change without warning as equipment is substituted due to breakdowns or for scheduled maintenance.
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Viewliner, bedrooms have toilets and shower. If in a VI roomette it has a toilet. If in a VII roomette no toilet.
blueman271
OBS Chief
The Floridian is going to be a single level train so its consist will be Amfleet 2’s and Viewliners. If you get a Viewliner 1 your room will have a toilet, if you get a Viewliner 2 roomettes won’t have a toilet, bedrooms and the H room will.
Single level, Amfleet IIs and Viewliners
Whether Viewliner Is (with roomette toilets) or Viewliner IIs (no roomette toilets) is unknown. Perhaps one I and one II, based on the information in the reservations system there will be two Viewliners, at least initially. It will probably be the same as what the Star is now.
Whether Viewliner Is (with roomette toilets) or Viewliner IIs (no roomette toilets) is unknown. Perhaps one I and one II, based on the information in the reservations system there will be two Viewliners, at least initially. It will probably be the same as what the Star is now.
Thank you so much for the info.
Thanks so much for the info.
Thanks for the info.
Maverickstation
Lead Service Attendant
Viewliner Diners as well.
https://www.amtrak.com/content/dam/...ts/menus/routes/Floridian-Dining-Car-Menu.pdf
https://www.amtrak.com/content/dam/...ts/menus/routes/Floridian-Dining-Car-Menu.pdf
They will scrape up a 5th Silver Star set somehow, and divert it from New York to Chicago.
VL 1 bedrooms (including the H room) have toilets and showers. VL1 roomettes have toilets and a shared shower at the end of the car, occupying the space of what would be the last roomette. VL2 roomettes don't have private toilets. Instead there are two shared toilets at the end of the car, opposite the shower, in the space used by the last roomette in VL1s.
One of the ways to tell a VL1 from a VL2 from the outside is the windows. Neither the shower nor the pair of toilets have windows, so the lack of windows at the roomette end of the car on both sides means it is a VL2. If it has windows on only one side, it is a VL1. I think the hallway on the bedroom end of the cars only has lower windows, no upper windows as in the roomettes, so the roomette end of the car is the end with both lower and upper windows, but I'm not sure if the bedrooms have upper windows, so maybe this doesn't help if you are looking at the wrong side of the car! Another way to tell is by the car numbers (5-digit numbers painted on the side of the car, not the 4-digit changeable numbers that indicate the route and position of the car in the train, which are supposed to be set by the train crew before departure, but are often wrong! Hard-core rail fans know all this by heart. If I'm looking at a train in a station, it usually has left by the time I've figured it out, hopefully not without me if I was supposed to be on it! There's no way I can tell a VL1 from a VL2 watching a moving train or a video.
Then there are the special cases, like the bag-dorm cars (half baggage room, half roomettes, usually for the crew) and I think there are a few other peculiar cases. The bag-dorm cars have no windows in the baggage room, and have a big door in the middle, like a regular baggage car.
One of the ways to tell a VL1 from a VL2 from the outside is the windows. Neither the shower nor the pair of toilets have windows, so the lack of windows at the roomette end of the car on both sides means it is a VL2. If it has windows on only one side, it is a VL1. I think the hallway on the bedroom end of the cars only has lower windows, no upper windows as in the roomettes, so the roomette end of the car is the end with both lower and upper windows, but I'm not sure if the bedrooms have upper windows, so maybe this doesn't help if you are looking at the wrong side of the car! Another way to tell is by the car numbers (5-digit numbers painted on the side of the car, not the 4-digit changeable numbers that indicate the route and position of the car in the train, which are supposed to be set by the train crew before departure, but are often wrong! Hard-core rail fans know all this by heart. If I'm looking at a train in a station, it usually has left by the time I've figured it out, hopefully not without me if I was supposed to be on it! There's no way I can tell a VL1 from a VL2 watching a moving train or a video.
Then there are the special cases, like the bag-dorm cars (half baggage room, half roomettes, usually for the crew) and I think there are a few other peculiar cases. The bag-dorm cars have no windows in the baggage room, and have a big door in the middle, like a regular baggage car.
It's the end without the doors. Actually, one side of the VL2 (I think it's the shower) has an upper window but no lower at that end; it's still fairly easy to spot.
Depending on the viewing angle and lighting, other ways to tell them apart are the conduit tunnel running down the center of the roof of the VL1, and the almost full skirt over the undercarriage on the VL2.
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