How many cities have more than one Amtrak station

[DowneasterPassenger]

How many cities have more than one Amtrak station? The rules are, count actual rail stations (not necessarily staffed or quik-traked), and Thruway bus stops don't count (San Francisco has 4 Thruway stops, and a staffed station, but no actual rail). The stations have to be within the city limits, so Cornwells Heights doesn't count for Philadelphia, and Naperville doesn't count for Chicago.

Here are some I can think of:

1. Philadelphia (2): PHL and PHN

2. Newark (2): NWK and EWR

3. Stockton, CA (2): SKN and STK

4. Boston (3): BBY, BOS, and BON

any others?

 

[Lateshore Limited]

How many cities have more than one Amtrak station? The rules are, count actual rail stations (not necessarily staffed or quik-traked), and Thruway bus stops don't count (San Francisco has 4 Thruway stops, and a staffed station, but no actual rail). The stations have to be within the city limits, so Cornwells Heights doesn't count for Philadelphia, and Naperville doesn't count for Chicago.
Here are some I can think of:

1. Philadelphia (2): PHL and PHN

2. Newark (2): NWK and EWR

3. Stockton, CA (2): SKN and STK

4. Boston (3): BBY, BOS, and BON

any others?

5. Buffalo (2) BUF and BFX

 

[wayman]

How many cities have more than one Amtrak station? The rules are, count actual rail stations (not necessarily staffed or quik-traked), and Thruway bus stops don't count (San Francisco has 4 Thruway stops, and a staffed station, but no actual rail). The stations have to be within the city limits, so Cornwells Heights doesn't count for Philadelphia, and Naperville doesn't count for Chicago.
Here are some I can think of:

1. Philadelphia (2): PHL and PHN

2. Newark (2): NWK and EWR

3. Stockton, CA (2): SKN and STK

4. Boston (3): BBY, BOS, and BON

any others?

Richmond (2): RVR and RVM

New York City (occasionally 2): NYP and NYG

PHN sees, what, one train per day in only one direction? I'm not even sure why that train stops there!

 

[DowneasterPassenger]

How many cities have more than one Amtrak station? The rules are, count actual rail stations (not necessarily staffed or quik-traked), and Thruway bus stops don't count (San Francisco has 4 Thruway stops, and a staffed station, but no actual rail). The stations have to be within the city limits, so Cornwells Heights doesn't count for Philadelphia, and Naperville doesn't count for Chicago.
Here are some I can think of:

1. Philadelphia (2): PHL and PHN

2. Newark (2): NWK and EWR

3. Stockton, CA (2): SKN and STK

4. Boston (3): BBY, BOS, and BON

any others?

Richmond (2): RVR and RVM

New York City (occasionally 2): NYP and NYG

PHN sees, what, one train per day in only one direction? I'm not even sure why that train stops there!

PHN is why I said "not necessarily staffed or quik-traked". I've never been there, but it doesn't seem like a great location to put a quik-trak machine. (I've heard these are vandalized and stolen here in east bay. Even though there is no money inside).

I also should have added a rule, only currently open and operating stations. Otherwise we'd have to count (2) for places like Oakland which has the old 16th St. station still standing, and tracks nowhere nearby.

 

[MrEd]

Buffalo, NY, BFX, BUF

 

[BigBlueBuddha]

How many cities have more than one Amtrak station? The rules are, count actual rail stations (not necessarily staffed or quik-traked), and Thruway bus stops don't count (San Francisco has 4 Thruway stops, and a staffed station, but no actual rail). The stations have to be within the city limits, so Cornwells Heights doesn't count for Philadelphia, and Naperville doesn't count for Chicago.
Here are some I can think of:

1. Philadelphia (2): PHL and PHN

2. Newark (2): NWK and EWR

3. Stockton, CA (2): SKN and STK

4. Boston (3): BBY, BOS, and BON

any others?

I guess Milwaukee, WI has 2, or is the airport not considered a "station"? It does have a waiting room. . .

Milwaukee: MKE

Milwaukee - General Mitchell International Airport: MKA

 

[user 1215]

I don't know if Milwaukee airport is technically in the city limits.

I'll bet there are several along the Pac-Surf line...

 

[Bob Dylan]

How many cities have more than one Amtrak station? The rules are, count actual rail stations (not necessarily staffed or quik-traked), and Thruway bus stops don't count (San Francisco has 4 Thruway stops, and a staffed station, but no actual rail). The stations have to be within the city limits, so Cornwells Heights doesn't count for Philadelphia, and Naperville doesn't count for Chicago.
Here are some I can think of:

1. Philadelphia (2): PHL and PHN

2. Newark (2): NWK and EWR

3. Stockton, CA (2): SKN and STK

4. Boston (3): BBY, BOS, and BON

any others?

Since the timetable shows Oakland/Emeryville on the system map as one station does this count?

I also wonder why the CZ starts in Emeryville instead of Oakland since this station is basically downtown

and under the Bay Bridge to San francisco?Might it have to do with traffic/access to stations?Also what about BWI

stop to get to WAS or Baltimore?

 

[wayman]

There was a six-or-so month period in 1979 between when the Southern Rwy turned operation of the Crescent over to Amtrak and when Amtrak stopped the Mountaineer during which Lynchburg, VA had two Amtrak stations (the Mountaineer and Shenandoah before it used the former Norfolk & Western station; the Crescent of course used the Southern Rwy station). When the Mountaineer stopped, the former Southern Rwy station became the only Lynchburg station (LYH, nicely restored and still in use).

Did the former N&W station have a three-letter station code? Or did those not exist in the 1970s?

 

[jis]

Also what about BWI stop to get to WAS or Baltimore?

I believe BWI is rightfully in Baltimore which would give Baltimore two stops i.e. BAL and BWI.

 

[The Metropolitan]

Also what about BWI stop to get to WAS or Baltimore?

I believe BWI is rightfully in Baltimore which would give Baltimore two stops i.e. BAL and BWI.

Negative on that one - even the Halethorpe MARC Station between the two is about a mile or two outside of Baltimore proper.

On the same thoughts, I'm not quite certain that Staples Mill Road Station is actually within Richmond, considering GRTC doesn't really service it, and they tend to bind to city boundaries.

Oakland Coliseum is not actually in Oakland I'm guessing?

 

[Ryan]

Also what about BWI stop to get to WAS or Baltimore?

I believe BWI is rightfully in Baltimore which would give Baltimore two stops i.e. BAL and BWI.

Negative on that one - even the Halethorpe MARC Station between the two is about a mile or two outside of Baltimore proper.

On the same thoughts, I'm not quite certain that Staples Mill Road Station is actually within Richmond, considering GRTC doesn't really service it, and they tend to bind to city boundaries.

Oakland Coliseum is not actually in Oakland I'm guessing?

Correct on Baltimore, incorrect on Richmond (RVR is inside city limits).

 

[stntylr]

The TRE's Centrepoint/DFW stop is scheduled to become a TE stop once the TE starts using the new route trough DFW. Even though it is out by the airpoint it is in Fort Worth city limits.

 

[DowneasterPassenger]

Oakland Coliseum is not actually in Oakland I'm guessing?

Good call:

OAC

Platform with Shelter

700 73rd Avenue

Oakland, CA 94621

I also wonder why the CZ starts in Emeryville instead of Oakland since this station is basically downtownand under the Bay Bridge to San francisco?Might it have to do with traffic/access to stations?

OKJ is not "under the bridge". The old Oakland station, I believe, used to be the terminus of the CZ. Emeryville has easier access to the Bay Bridge for Thruway buses to San Francisco. What always amazes me is that, there is one point where the UP tracks cross underneath all the BART lines in Oakland, about a mile west of the West Oakland BART station, right before BART goes into the tunnel under the bay, with no connection. Apparently after the 1989 earthquake, Amtrak proposed several new station options including one that would connect to West Oakland BART (a one-stop ride to downtown San Francisco). But the city of Oakland wanted to develop Jack London square, and thought this would be a better location for their new station.

Also, Emeryville is its own little city squeezed between Oakland and Berkeley.

It looks like Boston gets the award for "most Amtrak stations."

 

[DowneasterPassenger]

I'll bet there are several along the Pac-Surf line...

Good call:

San Luis Obispo (2): SLO, SLP

San Diego (2): SAN, OLT

There are two "Lompocs" on the timetable, but LPS is actually in Surf, CA.

 

[DowneasterPassenger]

I don't know if Milwaukee airport is technically in the city limits.

It seems to be:

5601 South 6th Street,

Milwaukee, WI 53221

 

[AlanB]

I also wonder why the CZ starts in Emeryville instead of Oakland since this station is basically downtownand under the Bay Bridge to San francisco?Might it have to do with traffic/access to stations?

OKJ is not "under the bridge". The old Oakland station, I believe, used to be the terminus of the CZ. Emeryville has easier access to the Bay Bridge for Thruway buses to San Francisco. What always amazes me is that, there is one point where the UP tracks cross underneath all the BART lines in Oakland, about a mile west of the West Oakland BART station, right before BART goes into the tunnel under the bay, with no connection. Apparently after the 1989 earthquake, Amtrak proposed several new station options including one that would connect to West Oakland BART (a one-stop ride to downtown San Francisco). But the city of Oakland wanted to develop Jack London square, and thought this would be a better location for their new station.

Also, Emeryville is its own little city squeezed between Oakland and Berkeley.

While I suspect that Emeryville's proximaty to the Bay Bridge didn't hurt the decision to start/end the CZ in EMY, the main reason for EMY being the terminus is that the train goes to a yard just north of Oakland for the night. For a short while I believe that Amtrak did have Oakland as the starting/ending point. But that required a deadhead move to the yard, extra train traffic on the streets of Oakland, and it required a backup move to get to/from the station. That backup move on the streets of Jack London Square made things very dangerous. It's not great even when going forward on those streets, but people are far more confused when the train is backing up and they think that they are safe to dart in front since they believe that the engine is leading the train, not pushing it.

Emeryville was simply easier and safer to get in and out of with a train headed to/from the yard.

 

[whistler]

Seattle WA - SEA and the Ferry/Pier 69 SVF

Eugene OR - EUG and the University - EUO

 

[D T Nelson]

Seattle WA - SEA and the Ferry/Pier 69 SVF
Eugene OR - EUG and the University - EUO

"Thruway stops don't count," he said. I KNOW the train does not stop at Pier 69, and I suspect the University stop in Eugene is a bus stop.

 

[JSmith]

Buffalo, NY, BFX, BUF

BUF is not within the city limits of Buffalo; only BFX is.

 

[chertling]

The stations have to be within the city limits...
...any others?

Well, this wouldn't quite qualify since the Independence, MO station isn't within the City Limits of Kansas City, MO... however, on the Missouri River Runner, you actually travel within the city limits of Kansas City both before AND after the Independence, MO station.

Going Westbound, you pass through the following Cities within the Kansas City metro area (Station Codes in parenthesis)...

Greenwood, MO -> Lee's Summit, MO (LEE) -> Unity Village, MO -> Kansas City, MO -> Independence, MO (IDP) -> Kansas City, MO (KCY)

 

[DET63]

While I suspect that Emeryville's proximaty to the Bay Bridge didn't hurt the decision to start/end the CZ in EMY, the main reason for EMY being the terminus is that the train goes to a yard just north of Oakland for the night. For a short while I believe that Amtrak did have Oakland as the starting/ending point. But that required a deadhead move to the yard, extra train traffic on the streets of Oakland, and it required a backup move to get to/from the station. That backup move on the streets of Jack London Square made things very dangerous. It's not great even when going forward on those streets, but people are far more confused when the train is backing up and they think that they are safe to dart in front since they believe that the engine is leading the train, not pushing it.
Emeryville was simply easier and safer to get in and out of with a train headed to/from the yard.

The street past Jack London Square is called The Embarcadero (or, according to Google Maps, Embarcadero W). While a back-up move for the comparatively long California Zephyr might be a challenge, Capitol Corridor trains "back up" on Embarcadero (albeit with a cab car at the "back" end) several times every day.
How many passengers each day on the Zephyr are ticketed for OKJ? I believe a Thruway bus does connect OKJ with EMY.

 

[jackal]

Someone mentioned the PacSurf line. I think Los Angeles might tie for the record at three stations: CWT, VNC, and LAX. Chatsworth and Van Nuys are districts of the City of Los Angeles, but they are not cities in their own right, so they are technically part of and inside the Los Angeles City Limits. (BUR and GDL are, while [almost] wholly enclosed within the city limits of Los Angeles, separate incorporated cities, so they don't count.)

And SLP is a bus-only stop, so SLO doesn't have two stops.

 

[RTOlson]

Seattle WA - SEA and the Ferry/Pier 69 SVFEugene OR - EUG and the University - EUO

"Thruway stops don't count," he said. I KNOW the train does not stop at Pier 69, and I suspect the University stop in Eugene is a bus stop.

Correcting my original post due to error - It appears that you're right. According to the schedule, the university stop is a bus stop.

 

[AlanB]

While I suspect that Emeryville's proximaty to the Bay Bridge didn't hurt the decision to start/end the CZ in EMY, the main reason for EMY being the terminus is that the train goes to a yard just north of Oakland for the night. For a short while I believe that Amtrak did have Oakland as the starting/ending point. But that required a deadhead move to the yard, extra train traffic on the streets of Oakland, and it required a backup move to get to/from the station. That backup move on the streets of Jack London Square made things very dangerous. It's not great even when going forward on those streets, but people are far more confused when the train is backing up and they think that they are safe to dart in front since they believe that the engine is leading the train, not pushing it.
Emeryville was simply easier and safer to get in and out of with a train headed to/from the yard.

The street past Jack London Square is called The Embarcadero (or, according to Google Maps, Embarcadero W). While a back-up move for the comparatively long California Zephyr might be a challenge, Capitol Corridor trains "back up" on Embarcadero (albeit with a cab car at the "back" end) several times every day.
How many passengers each day on the Zephyr are ticketed for OKJ? I believe a Thruway bus does connect OKJ with EMY.

People may still be confused watching a Capitol Corridor train moving down the street with the engine pushing, and therefore may still be tempted to make an error in judgement.

However from the train crew's perspective it is entirely different from backing the CZ down the street. The engineer in the cab car remains in full control of his/her train and can easily adjust speeds based upon what they are seeing ahead of them. Additionally there is still a very load horn mounted on the cab car and a bell that can be set to ringing while moving down the street.

The engineer of the CZ has none of these tools at their disposal. They are esentially moving blind and are relying on the conductor standing in the open door of the last car on the train to give them verbal commands via the radio. That adds time to anything that needs to be done. Additionally the conductor does not have a ringing bell or a loud horn mounted in that last car to warn people that the train is indeed running backwards. The conductor also cannot bring the train to a normal stop, he/she can only bring the train to an emergency stop by opening the air hose hooked on the rear of the car.