I believe new service is need in southeast/ Midwest/ VT

[mlhughes0522]

Southeast

Piedmont RGH-CLT Carolinian NYP-CLT

73 74 75. 76 77. 78. 80. 79

RGH. 6:28a3:05p 11:30a 6:10p 6:58p10:10p10:20a 4:50p

CYN 6:40a2:53p 11:42a 5:55p 7:10p 9:54p 10:00a 5:03p

DNC 7:00a 2:33p 12:02p 5:35p7:30p 9:34p. 9:38a 5:24p

BNC 7:38a 1:55p 12:40p 4:56p8:10p 8:56p. 9:01a 6:01p

GRO 8:00a 1:33p. 1:22p 4:34p8:32p 8:34p. 8:37a 6:30p

HPT 8:20a 1:03p 1:44p 4:14p8:52p. 8:14p. 8:17a 6:48p

SAL. 8:52a12:31p 1:30p 3:41p9:24p. 7:41p. 7:43a 7:10p

KAN 9:08a12:15p 1:46p.3:25p9:40p. 7:25p. 7:25a7:30p

CLT. 9:33a 11:50a 2:11p 3:00p10:05p 7:00p. 7:00a7:55p

RVR-GRV / was-ATL/RVR-SAV Peach services palmetto NYP-SAV

25. 26 27. 24 1089. 1090 89. 90

RVR 6:00a 5:00p. WAS 6:30a. 7:45p. RVR. 7:00a 10:45p 12:02p4:00p

PTB 6:30a 4:27p. ALX 7:30a. 7:05p PTB. 7:30a 10:12p 12:32p3:30p

RMT 8:00a2:47p. MSS.8:03a. 6:42p RMT 9:00a 8:52p. 2:02p2:00p

WLN 8:22a2:25p CUL 8:35a 6:10p WLN 9:22a 8:30p. 2:22p1:40p

SSM 8:52a 1:55p. CHV 9:30a. 5:15p SSM 9:52a 8:00p. 2:53p1:10p

RGH 9:38a 1:10p LYB 10:40a. 4:05p Fay 10:42a 7:10p. 3:44p12:20p

CYN.9:50a 12:54p DAN 11:08a. 2:53p DIL. 11:35a 6:20p. 4:35p11:30a

DNC11:10a12:34p GRO 12:20p. 1:45p FLO 12:28p 5:30p. 5:28p10:40a

BNC 11:38a11:56a HPT. 12:40p. 1:25p KTR 1:06p 4:50p. 6:06p10:00a

GRO12:00p11:34a SAL 1:12p 12:51p CHS 2:05p 4:00p. 7:15p 9:05a

HPT 12:20p10:14a KAN. 1:28p 12:35p YEM 3:00p 3:05p. 8:04p 8:00a

SAL.12:52p. 9:41a CLT 2:10p 12:10p SAV 4:00p 2:00p. 9:04p 7:00a

KAN 1:08p 9:25a. GAS. 2:40p 11:35a

CLT. 1:35p 9:00a. SPB 3:40p 10:35a

GAS.2:05p 8:20a. GRV 4:15p 10:00a

SPB 3:05p 7:20a. CSN. 4:55p. 9:22a

GRV 3:40p 6:45a. TOC. 5:40p 8:38a

GNS 5:15p 7:58a

ET ATL 7:15p 6:00a

6 Train set eng-bus/cafe-coach-coach-coach-coach-bag/non power cab engine

Change the cardinal to daily from WAS-CHI DP around 7a each way

RGH-CLB lil star /silver star ny-fl

1091 1092 1093. 1094. 91. 92

RGH 7:00a.11:15a 4:00p 7:55p 9:13p8:54a

CYN 7:12a.11:00a 4:12p.7:40p 9:27p 8:15a

SOP 8:22a. 9:50a. 5:22p 6:50p 10:38p7:38a

HAM9:12a. 9:00a 6:22p 6:00p 11:21p 6:29a

CAM10:32a 7:40a 7:40p 4:40p 12:50a 4:48a

CLB 11:10a 7:00a 8:20p 4:00p. 1:44a 4:08a

2 Trainset eng bag/cafe- coach-coach

SPF-St Abrams VT add one train. Each way

55/57 54/56. 1054 1055

St. Albans,vt 8:58a 8:59p11:59a. 12:59p

Burlington - Essex Jct.vt 9:27a. 8:17p11:17a. 1:17p

Waterbury - Stowe,vt. 9:52a. 7:50p10:50a. 1:52p

Montpelier - Barre,vt. 10:05a. 7:38p10:38a. 2:05p

Randolph VT 10:38a 7:05p10:05a. 2:38p

White River Jct. VT. 11:15a. 6:29p. 9:29a. 3:15p

Windsor - VT. 11:32a. 6:08p. 9:08a. 3:32p

Claremont,Nh 11:42a 5:59p. 8:59a. 3:42p

Bellows Falls,vt 12:03p 5:40p. 8:40a. 4:03p

Brattleboro,vt 12:34p 5:10p. 8:10a. 4:34p

Amherst,ma. 1:19p. 4:20p. 7:10a 5:19p

Springfield,ma. Ar 2:40p.DP3:15p 6:15a 6:40p

1 Trainset eng cafe- coach-coach

Midwest

KCY-CHI lil Chief /SW chief

33. 4. 3. 34

CHI 6:00a 3:15p 3:00p10:45p

NPV 6:35a 2:42p 3:35p10:10p

MDT 7:24a 1:19p 4:24p. 9:30p

PCT 7:46a12:58p 4:46p. 8:50p

GBB 8:38a12:08p 5:38p. 8:00p

FMD 9:42a11:09a 6:42p. 7:00p

LAP10:51a. 9:55a 7:51p. 5:50p. Hrs 9-11:30a 5-8:30p wkrs2

KCY 12:05p 7:43a10:11p 3:30p

1 trainset eng bag/cafe-coach-coach-coach

IA/NE zephyr 15. 16. 17. 18. 5. 6. CA ZEPHYR

Burlington,IA 7:00a 2:10a. 3:00p10:10p 5:25p10:36a

Mt Pleasant,IA 7:35a 1:35p. 3:35p 9:35p 6:00p 9:54a

Ottumwa,IA. 8:30a12:40p 4:30p 8:40p. 6:53p 9:09a

Osceola,IA. 9:40a 11:30a5:40p 7:30p. 8:09p 7:40a

Creston,IA. 10:10a10:50a6:10p. 6:50p 8:41p 7:04a

Omaha,NE. 12:00p 9:00a8:00p. 5:00p11:05p 5:14a

Lincoln,NE 1:00p 8:00a 9:00p 4:00p12:08a 3:26a

2 trainset eng bag/cafe-coach-coach-coach

 

[xyzzy]

NCDOT intends to run 4x RGH-CLT as soon as equipment and track improvements allow, probably within 3 years. Longer term the intention is 5x.

Otherwise, unless you propose that existing trains be discontinued in order to facilitate your plan, all that's needed is several hundred million for equipment, track improvements, and operating subsidies. Let me know if you find it.

 

[Texan Eagle]

Sure I also propose lots of new services. How exactly do you plan to have them started? I guess you happen to have a few hundred million dollars sitting in your account that you're willing to donate to Amtrak?

 

[Green Maned Lion]

I believe every route operating April 30th 1971 should be restored and then some with hourly or better service on each line. Your point?

 

[mlhughes0522]

I know that I would just start with one at a time then when money come rowing in then do any one on another route

KCY-CHI lil Chief /SW chief LAX-CHI

33. 4. 3. 34

CHI 6:00a 3:15p 3:00p10:45p

NPV 6:35a 2:42p 3:35p10:10p

MDT 7:24a 1:19p 4:24p. 9:30p

PCT 7:46a12:58p 4:46p. 8:50p

GBB 8:38a12:08p 5:38p. 8:00p

FMD 9:42a11:09a 6:42p. 7:00p

LAP10:51a. 9:55a 7:51p. 5:50p.

KCY 12:05p 7:43a10:11p 3:30p

1 trainset eng bag/cafe-coach-coach-coach

 

[Green Maned Lion]

The money won't come rolling in the way you are thinking.

 

[FriskyFL]

I believe that every address in the USA should be within walking distance of HSR, with one seat service to anywhere.

 

[trainaddict]

First, please know that this blog is NOT run by Amtrak directly despite all the Amtrak logos and symbolism. It has been outsourced. So your comments will not go directly through to Amtrak but instead be read by retired conductors, lead service attendants, etc., as noted on their virtual badges. If you want to contact Amtrak directly you must visit your local station, if you have one.

Now, as to your complaints, unfortunately Amtrak has not made a profit in years and ridership is plummeting. Moreover one need only read these blog pages to see stories of passengers being struck by trains, murders at the stations, and poisoning in the diners. It is unlikely there will be any private investment given these shortcomings.

For a more practical plan on what Amtrak needs you may wish to consult my earlier blog post, Amtrak: Fixing Broken System: A Guide.

 

[jis]

I believe every address in the US should have a teleportation device

 

[SarahZ]

First, please know that this blog is NOT run by Amtrak directly despite all the Amtrak logos and symbolism. It has been outsourced. So your comments will not go directly through to Amtrak but instead be read by retired conductors, lead service attendants, etc., as noted on their virtual badges.

I have never worked for Amtrak. As has been explained to you several times now, those labels (conductor, engineer, etc) are granted based on how many posts we have, not our job description.

 

[JayPea]

Ridership plummeting? Passengers struck by trains? Murders in stations? Poisoning in the diners? Amtrak hasn't made a profit in years? (Try never). Boy, sure makes me want to rush out and take more Amtrak trips!

 

[afigg]

Southeast

Piedmont RGH-CLT Carolinian NYP-CLT

73 74 75. 76 77. 78. 80. 79

...

Change the cardinal to daily from WAS-CHI DP around 7a each way

...

If you want to advocate new or revised train services, if I may, I would recommend you don't need to post dense proposed schedules of each major stop and train. Your post is hard to parse and read.
As for some of your schedules, you need to consider connections to other trains. That drives the schedules for the LD trains in Chicago. For example, the Cardinal departing CHI at 7 AM would break same day connections with other trains in CHI and a lousy arrival time at the 2nd busiest station on its route, Charlottesville.

Many of your proposed new trains would be under 750 miles, so they are state supported trains and will only happen if the state government is willing to ask for and subsidize the train. VT may someday get a second train to St. Albans and northward, but in the form of a Boston to Montreal service.

 

[Anderson]

Another piece of advice: If you need to post a timetable, use a code box (word "code" in brackets at the start and "/code" in brackets at the end), 4-digit timestamps (0130 for example), and consider using 24-hour time (0000 to 2359...I've defaulted to this to help keep times straight in my mind when adding/subtracting hours). It makes the text line up and be more easily readable. Using three-letter station codes as well minimizes the need for lots of spaces to line things up.

 

[Eric S]

Now, as to your complaints, unfortunately Amtrak has not made a profit in years and ridership is plummeting. Moreover one need only read these blog pages to see stories of passengers being struck by trains, murders at the stations, and poisoning in the diners. It is unlikely there will be any private investment given these shortcomings.

Holy cow! Seriously?

Please explain how Amtrak "ridership is plummeting."

And as for the other claims (murders, poisoning, etc.) - um, well, not sure that even warrants a response.

 

[me_little_me]

I know that I would just start with one at a time then when money come rowing in then do any one on another route

Have your state subsidize or pay for the train and you'll have them. Talk to your congressman, senators, state senators and state reps for that. They control the money.

Edit: Somehow my words ended up with OP's. My failure to pay attention.

 

[AlanB]

First, please know that this blog is NOT run by Amtrak directly despite all the Amtrak logos and symbolism. It has been outsourced. So your comments will not go directly through to Amtrak but instead be read by retired conductors, lead service attendants, etc., as noted on their virtual badges. If you want to contact Amtrak directly you must visit your local station, if you have one.

First, please know that this is NOT a blog! It is a forum. And there is a difference!

Second, please know that this forum is not run by Amtrak, directly or indirectly. It has NEVER been run by Amtrak! It is a forum run by railfans for railfans.

Third, there are NO Amtrak logos to be found here as posting them would be a violation of Amtrak's rules and their lawyers would order us to take them down.

And finally, as has been explained many times to you but for some reason you fail to comprehend, the titles under one's name reflect the number of posts you've made here. Even you are now a Train Attendant! So I guess you too must work for Amtrak now.

Now, as the senior Administrator here, let me tell you that you had best pay attention to what I'm saying here. People are tired of your nonsense! And it won't be permitted to continue if you don't wake up and learn that we are NOT Amtrak; never have been Amtrak; and have NO connection to Amtrak. Period!

 

[Ryan]

On topic, I'd love to live in a world where Amtrak was funded to do stuff like that.

 

[trainaddict]

Just a few examples:

http://discuss.amtraktrains.com/index.php?/topic/57194-another-pedestrian-struck-by-amtrak-train/page-2

http://discuss.amtraktrains.com/index.php?/topic/58038-coast-starlight-incident-122713-struck-someone-or-not/page-3

http://discuss.amtraktrains.com/index.php?/topic/57073-pedestrian-dies-after-being-struck-by-train-in-seattle/

http://discuss.amtraktrains.com/index.php?/topic/58786-stabbing-at-kal/

http://discuss.amtraktrains.com/index.php?/topic/57533-impaired-pedestrians-and-trains-dont-mix/page-3

http://discuss.amtraktrains.com/index.php?/topic/21913-beware-of-food/

http://discuss.amtraktrains.com/index.php?/topic/59103-dining-car-meal/page-3

Before you attack me, please read your own words.

That's what we mean when we say: "Don't shoot the people who live in glass houses."

Also despite your claim, I do NOT work for Amtrak.

 

[SarahZ]

Also despite your claim, I do NOT work for Amtrak.

NEITHER DO WE

 

[AlanB]

Before you attack me, please read your own words.

That's what we mean when we say: "Don't shoot the people who live in glass houses."

Also despite your claim, I do NOT work for Amtrak.

Yes, no one is denying that people have died in conjunction with accidents with Amtrak trains. That is NOT the point of contention here.

The point of contention here is your continued insistence that this forum is associated with and owned or operated in any fashion by Amtrak. Once again, WE ARE NOT AMTRAK! WE HAVE NO CONNECTION TO AMTRAK. AMTRAK DOES NOT ENDORSE THIS FORUM. AMTRAK HAS NO CONTROL OVER THE CONTENT OF THIS FORUM. AMTRAK DOES NOT PAY FOR THIS FORUM. AMTRAK DOES NOT OWN THIS FORUM.

While there are a few people who post here who do work for Amtrak, they are NOT posting on behalf of Amtrak. Their posts are unofficial posts that are NOT endorsed by Amtrak. Nothing that they say can be considered official unless Amtrak itself issues a press release on its website. A press release that will no doubt be copies and posted here by a member.

But once again, 98% of membership here DOES NOT WORK FOR AMTRAK any more than you do. The titles under one's name are based on post counts. In fact, some of the jobs listed don't even exist at Amtrak anymore. You will remain a Train Attendant until you have 50 posts; at which point you will be promoted to Service Attendant. Do you understand this?

 

[FriskyFL]

Please Don't Feed The Trolls!

 

[Eric S]

Just a few examples:

http://discuss.amtraktrains.com/index.php?/topic/57194-another-pedestrian-struck-by-amtrak-train/page-2

http://discuss.amtraktrains.com/index.php?/topic/58038-coast-starlight-incident-122713-struck-someone-or-not/page-3

http://discuss.amtraktrains.com/index.php?/topic/57073-pedestrian-dies-after-being-struck-by-train-in-seattle/

http://discuss.amtraktrains.com/index.php?/topic/58786-stabbing-at-kal/

http://discuss.amtraktrains.com/index.php?/topic/57533-impaired-pedestrians-and-trains-dont-mix/page-3

http://discuss.amtraktrains.com/index.php?/topic/21913-beware-of-food/

http://discuss.amtraktrains.com/index.php?/topic/59103-dining-car-meal/page-3

Before you attack me, please read your own words.

That's what we mean when we say: "Don't shoot the people who live in glass houses."

Also despite your claim, I do NOT work for Amtrak.

I suppose those are supposed to represent evidence of Amtrak ridership plummeting, murders at stations, passengers being struck by trains, and poisoning in diners, right?

I see a number of topics about pedestrians and/or trespassers being struck by trains, but nothing about passengers being struck. Unfortunately people have been getting hit by trains, whether intentionally on their part or accidentally, as long as there have been trains.

I see a topic about a person being stabbed (not murdered) at a single train station. Unfortunately, crime occurs. Not too long ago there was a pretty sensational shooting at Los Angeles International Airport, but I would hardly suggest that airline travel is unsafe because of that incident.

I see a topic about a person who may have received food poisoning on Amtrak. Nothing confirming that story as completely factual.

And I still see nothing about Amtrak's ridership plummeting. (Probably because Amtrak's ridership has increased dramatically over the last decade or so.)

 

[tim49424]

Please Don't Feed The Trolls!

This. trainaddict's act was funny when it first started. It's now quite sad. I think he just wants attention and every time we respond, guess what? He is accomplishing what he is setting out to do.

 

[George Harris]

I believe that every address in the USA should be within walking distance of HSR, with one seat service to anywhere.

:giggle: :giggle: :hi: :hi:

 

[FriskyFL]

Please Don't Feed The Trolls!

This. trainaddict's act was funny when it first started. It's now quite sad. I think he just wants attention and every time we respond, guess what? He is accomplishing what he is setting out to do.

Definitely a cry for help.