Lawsuit Filed in Crescent #20 Accident in La.

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According to trainorders Amtrak has Filed a Lawsuit in New Orleans Federal District Court Against Textron and Liberty Mutual Insurance Company plus Individuals for the Accident that Occured in April of this Year in Slidell,La. that Resulted in the Crescent being Derailed and Severe Damage to the Engines and Baggage Car when a Textron Truck Ran in Front of the Amtrak Train! The Amount Listed is $2.5 Million, No Mention if Individual Passengers or Crew Filed their Own Suits??
 
According to trainorders Amtrak has Filed a Lawsuit in New Orleans Federal District Court Against Textron and Liberty Mutual Insurance Company plus Individuals for the Accident that Occured in April of this Year in Slidell,La. that Resulted in the Crescent being Derailed and Severe Damage to the Engines and Baggage Car when a Textron Truck Ran in Front of the Amtrak Train! The Amount Listed is $2.5 Million, No Mention if Individual Passengers or Crew Filed their Own Suits??
The best I can tell from being on sight Jim is the NS is in deep doggie doo. There were NO cross bucks,let alone gates or lights at the crossing. When I got there, about 10 days after the accident, there were new cross bucks in fresh asphalt holding them up. The cross bucks were either in Picayune or Pearl River and somebody "forgot" to install them at Textron (both the city of Slidell and Textron are on record as requesting cross bucks) :help: It ain't over 'til it's over and I'm sure the trucking company is going to counter sue Amtrak who will file against the NS who they pay to use and maintain the tracks, and install cross bucks as needed :help: An attorney's retirement dream come true. :cool:
 
According to trainorders Amtrak has Filed a Lawsuit in New Orleans Federal District Court Against Textron and Liberty Mutual Insurance Company plus Individuals for the Accident that Occured in April of this Year in Slidell,La. that Resulted in the Crescent being Derailed and Severe Damage to the Engines and Baggage Car when a Textron Truck Ran in Front of the Amtrak Train! The Amount Listed is $2.5 Million, No Mention if Individual Passengers or Crew Filed their Own Suits??
The best I can tell from being on sight Jim is the NS is in deep doggie doo. There were NO cross bucks,let alone gates or lights at the crossing. When I got there, about 10 days after the accident, there were new cross bucks in fresh asphalt holding them up. The cross bucks were either in Picayune or Pearl River and somebody "forgot" to install them at Textron (both the city of Slidell and Textron are on record as requesting cross bucks) :help: It ain't over 'til it's over and I'm sure the trucking company is going to counter sue Amtrak who will file against the NS who they pay to use and maintain the tracks, and install cross bucks as needed :help: An attorney's retirement dream come true. :cool:
I thought that the states were responsible for paying for crossings.

http://www.uprr.com/she/safety/xing_safety/location.shtml
 
According to trainorders Amtrak has Filed a Lawsuit in New Orleans Federal District Court Against Textron and Liberty Mutual Insurance Company plus Individuals for the Accident that Occured in April of this Year in Slidell,La. that Resulted in the Crescent being Derailed and Severe Damage to the Engines and Baggage Car when a Textron Truck Ran in Front of the Amtrak Train! The Amount Listed is $2.5 Million, No Mention if Individual Passengers or Crew Filed their Own Suits??
The best I can tell from being on sight Jim is the NS is in deep doggie doo. There were NO cross bucks,let alone gates or lights at the crossing. When I got there, about 10 days after the accident, there were new cross bucks in fresh asphalt holding them up. The cross bucks were either in Picayune or Pearl River and somebody "forgot" to install them at Textron (both the city of Slidell and Textron are on record as requesting cross bucks) :help: It ain't over 'til it's over and I'm sure the trucking company is going to counter sue Amtrak who will file against the NS who they pay to use and maintain the tracks, and install cross bucks as needed :help: An attorney's retirement dream come true. :cool:
I thought that the states were responsible for paying for crossings.

http://www.uprr.com/she/safety/xing_safety/location.shtml
They are when it comes to a SIGNALLED crossing...you cannot have a public crossing without cross bucks; but then again this situation pops up."Once a RR determines which crossings are to be upgraded" which to me infers cross bucks are already in place.
 
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Amtrak can't sue NS, period. Their indemnity agreement with all host RR's prevents it.

As for crossings & signage, it's actually a bit complicated. In this case, I suspect that NS is indeed at fault if there were no signs. However, there are plenty of private crossings without signage. You're just supposed to know that you have to stop when using that crossing.

In the case of a public road, signs are considered traffic control devices. As such, no RR can install a "traffic control device" without the permission of the government entity owning that road. So for example, NS can't just decide tomorrow to upgrade a crossing with just flashing lights to a gated crossing without first obtaining permission from the correct DOT. And generally these days, since the RR is always saddled with the ongoing costs to maintain signals, the RR's generally want the DOT or other entity to pay for the initial installation.
 
Private crossing signs often look like these:




http://railroadsignalarchives.com/CaliforniaCrossings/Moorpark/Crossing745893S/9.jpg

railfan-safety.jpg


Note that crossbucks (I don't mean the painted X's on the plates below the stop signs) are usually absent.
 
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Amtrak can't sue NS, period. Their indemnity agreement with all host RR's prevents it.
And just what prevents Textron & the driver from filing suit on the NS ???
Textron has been in that location for many years, It is also assumed that the truck driver has gone across this crossing many times and should know that it is an active RR R.O.W. . It is also public knowledge that the Crescent passes this point twice daily. This appears to be only a case of driver negligence and I predict that Textron will be held liable. For a large corporation like Textron the cost of replacing the baggage car and fixing the engines at $2.5 million should be easily managable and they should have adequate insurance coverage to boot.
 
I think it may be useful to review private and public grade crossings to see how crossings are established and modified and to who can be held liable in the case of an accident.

Private grade crossings

Private grade crossings are established by issuance of a permit or easement by the railroad to the private interest that desires the crossing. The requirements of the crossing, including the type and design of protective devices, are specified by the permit or easement. Also specified is who pays for the crossing. That one is usually easy. The party desiring the crossing pays everything. One key aspect of any crossing permit is that the railroad is held harmless in the event of an accident. Even if a jury finds the railroad negligent for an accident, the permit holder covers any liability incurred by the railroad. Unless a railroad’s legal department was napping when a permit is issued, or there is some unusual circumstance, railroads will not be financially harmed by an accident at a private crossing no matter what a jury finds.

Public highway crossings

The Federal government has authority to regulate railroads. The federal government has delegated some of that regulatory authority to the states. Included among the areas delegated to the states is the authority to regulate public grade crossings. Most states have the commission that regulates public utilities responsible for railroad grade crossings.

If any party – state, county, local highway interest, or the railroad itself – wishes to establish or modify a grade crossing, the request is made though the designated state regulatory commission. The commission contacts all possible affected parties, holds field visits, formal hearings, and finally issues an order setting forth the requirements for the crossing, including the design and the allocation of installation and maintenance costs. In the end, the type of crossing is as ordered by the state commission. It must meet any applicable FRA requirements, but it is a state responsibility.

In practice, the railroad and the highway people usually work out the details of the crossing in advance. Once the details are determined, the parties go to the commission to get the plans approved and the costs allocated. However, in the rare cases where there is no agreement, the state commission has the final say.

The big difference between a private crossing and a public crossing is that the private crossing exists only if the railroad agrees and (almost always) only if the railroad is held harmless. A public crossing exists because the state regulatory authority orders it (even if the railroad does not want it), and all the parties are potentially liable in the event of an accident. At a public crossing, no one is held harmless.
 
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I think it may be useful to review private and public grade crossings to see how crossings are established and modified and to who can be held liable in the case of an accident.

Private grade crossings

Private grade crossings are established by issuance of a permit or easement by the railroad to the private interest that desires the crossing. The requirements of the crossing, including the type and design of protective devices, are specified by the permit or easement. Also specified is who pays for the crossing. That one is usually easy. The party desiring the crossing pays everything. One key aspect of any crossing permit is that the railroad is held harmless in the event of an accident. Even if a jury finds the railroad negligent for an accident, the permit holder covers any liability incurred by the railroad. Unless a railroad’s legal department was napping when a permit is issued, or there is some unusual circumstance, railroads will not be financially harmed by an accident at a private crossing no matter what a jury finds.

Public highway crossings

The Federal government has authority to regulate railroads. The federal government has delegated some of that regulatory authority to the states. Included among the areas delegated to the states is the authority to regulate public grade crossings. Most states have the commission that regulates public utilities responsible for railroad grade crossings.

If any party – state, county, local highway interest, or the railroad itself – wishes to establish or modify a grade crossing, the request is made though the designated state regulatory commission. The commission contacts all possible affected parties, holds field visits, formal hearings, and finally issues an order setting forth the requirements for the crossing, including the design and the allocation of installation and maintenance costs. In the end, the type of crossing is as ordered by the state commission. It must meet any applicable FRA requirements, but it is a state responsibility.

In practice, the railroad and the highway people usually work out the details of the crossing in advance. Once the details are determined, the parties go to the commission to get the plans approved and the costs allocated. However, in the rare cases where there is no agreement, the state commission has the final say.

The big difference between a private crossing and a public crossing is that the private crossing exists only if the railroad agrees and (almost always) only if the railroad is held harmless. A public crossing exists because the state regulatory authority orders it (even if the railroad does not want it), and all the parties are potentially liable in the event of an accident. At a public crossing, no one is held harmless.
Great analysis. And I almost forgot about the state law (in Louisiana) that makes it mandatory to stop before crossing any RR track~ public or private. I think the end result here will be if it indeed was a public crossing and no one posted it as same. Awfully strange how the cross bucks went up so quickly after the incident.
 
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