Marriott Newark airport to Penn Station NYC

[Steve4031]

I am staying here because the rate is almost 300 dollars cheaper for me. I am planning on catching the 5:22 a.m NJT train from Newark ariport station arriving NYP at 5:50 a.m. Then I could have a quick breakfast at stage door deli before boarding the Cardinal at 6:45 a.m.

I am thinking that leaving the hotel at 4:45 a.m. should allow me enough time to get to the air train station and ride over to Newark airport station on the NEC.

Has anybody done this transfer? What is your experience in using the shuttle at this hotel to get to the air train station? What is your experience walking to the air train station nearest the hotel?

Thank you.

PS: I know I could catch 51 in Trenton at 7 a.m., but if there happens to be a delay, NYP and the club acela is a better place to wait out a delay IMHO.

 

[PRR 60]

The walk from the Hotel to AirTrain does not look too bad. Basically, out the door of the hotel, across the parking access road, across the parking lot (marked path), into Terminal B, and upstairs to AirTrain. If the hotel shuttle had just left, or was not leaving for 15 minutes or so, you could easily beat it by walking.

One other option is to take a cab from the hotel to Newark Penn Station. NJ Transit charges $12.50 for one-way EWR-NYP, but only $5.00 for NWK-NYP. The $7.50 savings would help offset the cost of the cab (maybe $20 including tip?). The benefit would be to avoid the time getting over to Terminal B, and waiting for and riding AirTrain. There is also an NJT bus from EWR to Newark Penn, but that would be a hassle with luggage and would take extra time. The small cost savings would (in my opinion) not be justified.

 

[AlanB]

Steve,

IIRC, Mike H has stayed at this hotel once several years ago so you may want to touch base with him regarding things.

That said, I'd say that is not enough time to safely connect with the NJT train. Prior to 5 AM, the Airtrain runs on 15 minute headways and it takes 9 minutes from Terminal B to the NEC station; on Sundays the 15 minute headways continue until 7 AM.

Also keep in mind that if you're riding on a Sunday, the Club Acela will not open until 7 AM. Weekdays it opens 5:15 AM.

 

[Steve4031]

Thanks to all.

I'll be departing on veterans day, a Friday. So worst case scenario is just missing an airtrain, waiting 15 minutes, and then riding 9 minutes to the Njt station. A total of 26 minutes. So if I leave hotel at 4:30 I'll have plenty of time.

My main goal is to eat a decent breakfast at 6 am at stage door deli. The CA would not be a factor unless there is a delayed departure.

 

[jis]

I am staying here because the rate is almost 300 dollars cheaper for me. I am planning on catching the 5:22 a.m NJT train from Newark ariport station arriving NYP at 5:50 a.m. Then I could have a quick breakfast at stage door deli before boarding the Cardinal at 6:45 a.m.

I am thinking that leaving the hotel at 4:45 a.m. should allow me enough time to get to the air train station and ride over to Newark airport station on the NEC.

Has anybody done this transfer? What is your experience in using the shuttle at this hotel to get to the air train station? What is your experience walking to the air train station nearest the hotel?

I would be very surprised if the shuttle from the hotel will take you to EWR station. It will take you to the Airtrain station P4. Be aware though that very often Airtrain Service specially to EWR is quite flaky before 5:30am. I have often regretted arriving into EWR by a red eye and getting stuck waiting for the Airtrain (or its bustitution) to show up while Bombardier contemplates their navel trying to keep it running. Worst case, be prepared to run over to Terminal C and grab a cab to Newark Penn Station if time starts getting short. It is a short walk from P4 to Terminal C. I have had to do that at least once.

But let me not scare you. It will most likely work out alright. But just keep these possibilities in the back of your mind. They have been known to happen somewhat more frequently than one would expect normally.

 

[Steve4031]

I am staying here because the rate is almost 300 dollars cheaper for me. I am planning on catching the 5:22 a.m NJT train from Newark ariport station arriving NYP at 5:50 a.m. Then I could have a quick breakfast at stage door deli before boarding the Cardinal at 6:45 a.m.

I am thinking that leaving the hotel at 4:45 a.m. should allow me enough time to get to the air train station and ride over to Newark airport station on the NEC.

Has anybody done this transfer? What is your experience in using the shuttle at this hotel to get to the air train station? What is your experience walking to the air train station nearest the hotel?

I would be very surprised if the shuttle from the hotel will take you to EWR station. It will take you to the Airtrain station P4. Be aware though that very often Airtrain Service specially to EWR is quite flaky before 5:30am. I have often regretted arriving into EWR by a red eye and getting stuck waiting for the Airtrain (or its bustitution) to show up while Bombardier contemplates their navel trying to keep it running. Worst case, be prepared to run over to Terminal C and grab a cab to Newark Penn Station if time starts getting short. It is a short walk from P4 to Terminal C. I have had to do that at least once.

But let me not scare you. It will most likely work out alright. But just keep these possibilities in the back of your mind. They have been known to happen somewhat more frequently than one would expect normally.

Jis,

thanks for the information. It never occurred to me that the thing would not be running because of malfunctions. Thanks for the reminder. Getting the shuttle to p4 will be fine. It will save some time IMHO. When I come out of the hotel in the morning, if I don't see activity on the Airtrain tracks, then I'll cab it.

 

[jis]

I am staying here because the rate is almost 300 dollars cheaper for me. I am planning on catching the 5:22 a.m NJT train from Newark ariport station arriving NYP at 5:50 a.m. Then I could have a quick breakfast at stage door deli before boarding the Cardinal at 6:45 a.m.

I am thinking that leaving the hotel at 4:45 a.m. should allow me enough time to get to the air train station and ride over to Newark airport station on the NEC.

Has anybody done this transfer? What is your experience in using the shuttle at this hotel to get to the air train station? What is your experience walking to the air train station nearest the hotel?

I would be very surprised if the shuttle from the hotel will take you to EWR station. It will take you to the Airtrain station P4. Be aware though that very often Airtrain Service specially to EWR is quite flaky before 5:30am. I have often regretted arriving into EWR by a red eye and getting stuck waiting for the Airtrain (or its bustitution) to show up while Bombardier contemplates their navel trying to keep it running. Worst case, be prepared to run over to Terminal C and grab a cab to Newark Penn Station if time starts getting short. It is a short walk from P4 to Terminal C. I have had to do that at least once.

But let me not scare you. It will most likely work out alright. But just keep these possibilities in the back of your mind. They have been known to happen somewhat more frequently than one would expect normally.

Jis,

thanks for the information. It never occurred to me that the thing would not be running because of malfunctions. Thanks for the reminder. Getting the shuttle to p4 will be fine. It will save some time IMHO. When I come out of the hotel in the morning, if I don't see activity on the Airtrain tracks, then I'll cab it.

It really isn't malfunction as much as the fact that they do take substantial parts of the Airtrain off-line for maintenance at night. Often it operates single track requiring switching from one train to another at P4 to get from the Terminals to EWR too, and the service is way less frequent and more haphazard when compared to what one gets during daytime.

 

[trainman74]

I would be very surprised if the shuttle from the hotel will take you to EWR station.

I don't think the shuttle even can take someone directly to the EWR train station -- if I recall correctly, there's no public road access to the station.

 

[jis]

I would be very surprised if the shuttle from the hotel will take you to EWR station.

I don't think the shuttle even can take someone directly to the EWR train station -- if I recall correctly, there's no public road access to the station.

That's correct regarding public access. There is road access but they do not allow anything other than Airtrain bustitution buses on that road (and PA work vehicles) AFAICT. I have been bustituted at night several times and once during a snowstorm to/from EWR.

 

[AudenHoggart]

Have you considered staying at the Hilton Gateway in Newark? It's right at Newark Penn Station (connected by a walkway so you don't even have to go outside.) If you stayed there (and they do have a free shuttle bus from Newark Airport if that's relevant for you), you wouldn't have to contend with getting back to the airport, getting the AirTrain, transferring to New Jersey Transit. You'd just go across the walkway into Newark Penn Station. You could board the Cardinal there and not have to bother going into New York City and then reversing directions.

Even if you do have to stay at the airport, why do you want to go into New York to get the Cardinal rather than boarding in Newark?

 

[AudenHoggart]

If you do have to stay at the airport I think it will be easier to get the Cardinal in Newark, but you also have the option of taking the AirTrain and then the southbound New Jersey Transit train to Trenton, where you can connect with the Cardinal.

 

[Steve4031]

I am considering the Hilton, but its best rate is non refundable. And on principal, I dont stay at hotels that do that. Marriott is about 80 dollars cheaper than the non refundable rate. If the Hilton rate comes down, I might go there.

 

[AudenHoggart]

And why do you want to board the Cardinal in New York, rather than in Newark or Trenton?

 

[jis]

And why do you want to board the Cardinal in New York, rather than in Newark or Trenton?

Because he thinks it is better to wait in Club Acela in New York than on the platform in Newark or Trenton.

 

[J-1 3235]

And he wants breakfast from the Stage Door Deli

 

[sttsxm]

I would be very surprised if the shuttle from the hotel will take you to EWR station.

I don't think the shuttle even can take someone directly to the EWR train station -- if I recall correctly, there's no public road access to the station.

Correct the shuttles cannot go anyplace except P4...and there is no access to the station other than the monorail.

Also, NJT has had a LOT of issues lately with delays etc, due to flooding, signal issues, derailments, trespassers and just plain dumb luck .

And boarding at NYP is WAAAYYYY better than TRE (i hate to board ANYTHING in TRE though it has gotten a LITTLE better...) AND at NWK, sometiems at 0-dark-thirty the only things in the station are cops and homeless people....no redcaps, no Amtrak nor NJT humans, no seats...no nada.....

 

[edding]

Have you considered staying at the Hilton Gateway in Newark? It's right at Newark Penn Station (connected by a walkway so you don't even have to go outside.) If you stayed there (and they do have a free shuttle bus from Newark Airport if that's relevant for you), you wouldn't have to contend with getting back to the airport, getting the AirTrain, transferring to New Jersey Transit. You'd just go across the walkway into Newark Penn Station. You could board the Cardinal there and not have to bother going into New York City and then reversing directions.

Even if you do have to stay at the airport, why do you want to go into New York to get the Cardinal rather than boarding in Newark?

Just fyi I have stayed at the Hilton Newark Station several times and will stay there again in a few weeks and I can HIGHLY recommend it. I don't know whether the OP is either an AAA member or a state or federal employee but just in case be sure to check those rates because they are often very reasonable and refundable.

 

[Anderson]

My gut would be this: If things go to Helena, Montana in a wicker basket, be willing to board 51 at Newark. The aforementioned issues with the AirTrain, plus the possibility of something else going haywire with NJT (not that such is likely) suggests that at least being willing to do this in a crunch is workable. Even if it's an issue with sleeper accommodations, I think EWR is close enough to NYP that you could "fudge" it in a crunch. Granted, I'd rather wait at NYP than at EWR, but I've had to be flexible on some things like this before.