Metroliner Resurrection?

[Trogdor]

I feel that Amtrak should eliminate business class, and just have Coach and Club Car/Sleepers for First Class. It simplifies things (including fleet management and sales) and during the '80's it was like that and it worked just fine.

And how do you "feel" Amtrak should replace the revenue they lose from not offering such?

 

[NE933]

I feel that Amtrak should eliminate business class, and just have Coach and Club Car/Sleepers for First Class. It simplifies things (including fleet management and sales) and during the '80's it was like that and it worked just fine.

And how do you "feel" Amtrak should replace the revenue they lose from not offering such?

"Good" is how i'd "feel", when the net revenue goes up from those people going in the First Class/Club car. "Better" when Amtrak puts on an extra coach for capacity, replacing the Business Class that doesn't know whether to s--- or get off the pot.

 

[Acela150]

Per Request; picture from 2011:

http://railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=383760&nseq=0

peter

Thanks for that great shot!! To make it better it was taken Monday! Why can't all equipment look like this?? :blink: We can dream can't we?? :giggle:

 

[alanh]

A bit OT, but anyway...

Choo Choo Chewies? Seriously, Amtrak?

Heh. Granted in 2003.

Children's Meals Consisting Primarily of meat, fish, poultry and/or vegetables in International Class 29.

As noted above, there aren't trademark police cruising around looking for trademarks; enforcement is mainly up to the trademark owners. As long as they can demonstrate they're using the trademark in the field for which it was granted, they can prevent anyone else from using it. It's not enough just to list it in the timetable; they have to show they're using it. They submitted a scanned menu as proof of use of Choo Choo Chewies® in August 2011.

As for Metroliner®, it appears that it was first registered in 2001, apparently just Metroliner™ prior to that. The record indicates it was first used in 1969. The most recent example submitted was in 2007; a screenshot of Amtrak.com showing details of the route.

That is a bit odd, considering the statement above that the last Metroliners ran in 2006.

 

[PerRock]

Per Request; picture from 2011:

http://railpictures....d=383760&nseq=0

peter

Thanks for that great shot!! To make it better it was taken Monday! Why can't all equipment look like this?? :blink: We can dream can't we?? :giggle:

I feel I should clarify, that the picture I linked isn't my picture. I just found it on RP. I have yet to get a picture on RP.

peter

 

[Anderson]

I feel that Amtrak should eliminate business class, and just have Coach and Club Car/Sleepers for First Class. It simplifies things (including fleet management and sales) and during the '80's it was like that and it worked just fine.

And how do you "feel" Amtrak should replace the revenue they lose from not offering such?

"Good" is how i'd "feel", when the net revenue goes up from those people going in the First Class/Club car. "Better" when Amtrak puts on an extra coach for capacity, replacing the Business Class that doesn't know whether to s--- or get off the pot.

Trog,

I think that NE933 wasn't suggesting getting rid of upgraded accommodations so much as actually having an "improved service class" on Regionals that actually had improved service beyond a free drink and a footrest (i.e. having 2-1 seating or something in that vein).

 

[Big Iron]

Are there any pictures of 9800 with these decals? Last time I saw 9800 it was at NTD 2010 at PHL with the current paint and IIRC some of the interior was rather outdated toward the 90's interior if I had to guess.

There is one today on railpictures.net today (12/16)

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=383760&nseq=7

 

[Ryan]

That's the same picture that was posted 2 days ago.

 

[jphjaxfl]

Now see, that's pretty.

There are a lot of good feelings and brand recognition out there for Metroliner service. Amtrak should capitalize on that.

I always associate Metroliner with Penn Central which is the railroad that started that brand. While Metroliner was an improvement over the coaches and parlor cars that it replaced, the service improved quite a bit when Amtrak took over. Penn Central was known for chasing passengers away.

 

[PRR 60]

Now see, that's pretty.

There are a lot of good feelings and brand recognition out there for Metroliner service. Amtrak should capitalize on that.

I always associate Metroliner with Penn Central which is the railroad that started that brand. While Metroliner was an improvement over the coaches and parlor cars that it replaced, the service improved quite a bit when Amtrak took over. Penn Central was known for chasing passengers away.

While I agree in general about the Penn Central's lack of customer focus, the PC's operation of the Metroliner was first rate. The PC crews showed pride in operating the new, state-of-the-art equipment. As George mentioned earlier, there was a special dress code for all crew members on the PC Metroliner. The idea was to distinguish the service from the regular trains by more than just the equipment. As a passenger, I sought out the Metroliner since the cost was only a couple of dollars more than the conventional trains.

I wish that Amtrak crews had the same pride in Acela. I don't get a sense on Acela that the crews think it is anything more than just another train.