Night Owl consist

[cpamtfan]

I said they were mixed? I said they were NEVER mixed.

Yes, I was also telling him that.

 

[B&Ofan]

This might a slightly off topic, but I really miss the slumber coach. I remember when the had both a viewliner sleeper and a slumber coach on the Boston section of the LSL At that time the accomidation charge was like $50 (to Toledo) for the slumber coach verses $200 for the viewliner. I was quite disappointed when they dropped the Slumber coach leaving the only options coach and sleeper.

 

[Green Maned Lion]

This might a slightly off topic, but I really miss the slumber coach. I remember when the had both a viewliner sleeper and a slumber coach on the Boston section of the LSL At that time the accomidation charge was like $50 (to Toledo) for the slumber coach verses $200 for the viewliner. I was quite disappointed when they dropped the Slumber coach leaving the only options coach and sleeper.

I'm pretty sure that, short of oddball substitutions, they never ran Slumbercoaches on Viewliner-equipped trains. The Viewliner roomette is, essentially, a double-slumbercoach.

 

[B&Ofan]

This might a slightly off topic, but I really miss the slumber coach. I remember when the had both a viewliner sleeper and a slumber coach on the Boston section of the LSL At that time the accommodation charge was like $50 (to Toledo) for the slumber coach verses $200 for the viewliner. I was quite disappointed when they dropped the Slumber coach leaving the only options coach and sleeper.

I'm pretty sure that, short of oddball substitutions, they never ran Slumbercoaches on Viewliner-equipped trains. The Viewliner roomette is, essentially, a double-slumbercoach.

I'm just reporting what I saw, however that said I know the train lost the slumbercoach shortly afterwords. I'm pretty sure it was a transitional consist as they were phasing in the Viewliners and phasing out the slumbercoaches. I now wish I kept records of my early trips out of Boston on the LSL as 448/449 has had some interesting things happen around that time. In retrospect it seems quite odd that they would have 2 types of sleeping cars on a train that only carries 2 coaches and a cafe car.

 

[cpamtfan]

This might a slightly off topic, but I really miss the slumber coach. I remember when the had both a viewliner sleeper and a slumber coach on the Boston section of the LSL At that time the accomidation charge was like $50 (to Toledo) for the slumber coach verses $200 for the viewliner. I was quite disappointed when they dropped the Slumber coach leaving the only options coach and sleeper.

I'm pretty sure that, short of oddball substitutions, they never ran Slumbercoaches on Viewliner-equipped trains. The Viewliner roomette is, essentially, a double-slumbercoach.

They did for a very short time towards the end of 1996. Infack, for a little while they ran a 10-6, Viewliner sleeper, and Slumbercoach all on the same train (I got this out of a Trains Magazine article from I think November 1996).

cpamtfan-Peter

 

[B&Ofan]

They did for a very short time towards the end of 1996. In fact, for a little while they ran a 10-6, Viewliner sleeper, and Slumbercoach all on the same train (I got this out of a Trains Magazine article from I think November 1996).
cpamtfan-Peter

Thanks for the conformation. That would be about the time frame I was thinking about. I remember when I was thinking about buying a ticket, the train was in the station and the conductor showed me both cars so I could see what they were like.

 

[Green Maned Lion]

This might a slightly off topic, but I really miss the slumber coach. I remember when the had both a viewliner sleeper and a slumber coach on the Boston section of the LSL At that time the accomidation charge was like $50 (to Toledo) for the slumber coach verses $200 for the viewliner. I was quite disappointed when they dropped the Slumber coach leaving the only options coach and sleeper.

I'm pretty sure that, short of oddball substitutions, they never ran Slumbercoaches on Viewliner-equipped trains. The Viewliner roomette is, essentially, a double-slumbercoach.

They did for a very short time towards the end of 1996. Infack, for a little while they ran a 10-6, Viewliner sleeper, and Slumbercoach all on the same train (I got this out of a Trains Magazine article from I think November 1996).

cpamtfan-Peter

Those were only substitutions, the Viewliner Economy Bedrooms were sold as Heritage Roomettes. I'd have been POed if I had been so substituted.

 

[Donctor]

I found a 1983 Montrealer consist on YouTube that was:

E60

Heritage Bag-Dorm

Heritage 10/6 Sleeper

Heritage 24/8 Slumbercoach

Amfleet I Café

Amfleet I Café

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Amfleet I Coach

Heritage Baggage "Shorty"

Similarly, I found a 1993 consist that was:

AEM-7

AEM-7

Heritage Baggage

Heritage 10/6 Sleeper

Heritage Lounge

Amfleet II Coach

Amfleet II Coach

Amfleet II Coach

Amfleet I Café (corridor train)

Amfleet I Coach (corridor train)

Amfleet I Coach (corridor train)

Amfleet I Coach (corridor train)

Amfleet I Coach (corridor train)

 

[gaspeamtrak]

I'm not sure, but I do remember hearing it carried two sleepers, one WAS-BOS and one only WAS-NYP which offered early boarding (in the evening) and later departure (in the morning).

If I remember correctly the NYP-WAS sleeper was called "THE EXECUTIVE SLEEPER" I'm not sure if it was called that WAS-NYP and it may have had it's own train number??? Anybody else remember?

I will try and look through my old timetables when i get a chance...

 

[cpamtfan]

I'm not sure, but I do remember hearing it carried two sleepers, one WAS-BOS and one only WAS-NYP which offered early boarding (in the evening) and later departure (in the morning).

If I remember correctly the NYP-WAS sleeper was called "THE EXECUTIVE SLEEPER" I'm not sure if it was called that WAS-NYP and it may have had it's own train number??? Anybody else remember?

I will try and look through my old timetables when i get a chance...

I believe they were called the NY and WAS Executive Sleepers. They did indeed have their own numbers (866-867).

cpamtfan-Peter

 

[NY_Central_West_Shore]

With the announcement that Amtrak is seeking bids on new Viewliner sleepers it seems time to bring back the Night Owl in all its glory.

I rode #95 a few days ago. One of the trainmen told me they may add the sleeper back in October 2009. I don't know if it will be reassigned equipment or the first of the new 15 or so sleepers planned for purchase.

Amtrak is not booking any berths on 66/67 as of yesterday. They had better hurry.

 

[Ryan]

The new sleepers (there will be more than 15) haven't even been ordered yet, so we're not going to see them for quite some time. I wouldn't put much credence in this one.

 

[bretton88]

It wouldn't make sense even if they where going to reassign equipment. Where would they come up with the extra sleeper? Amtrak's pretty maxed out right now.

 

[cpamtfan]

With the announcement that Amtrak is seeking bids on new Viewliner sleepers it seems time to bring back the Night Owl in all its glory.

I rode #95 a few days ago. One of the trainmen told me they may add the sleeper back in October 2009. I don't know if it will be reassigned equipment or the first of the new 15 or so sleepers planned for purchase.

Amtrak is not booking any berths on 66/67 as of yesterday. They had better hurry.

Interesting. Only 39 are currently use (plus a protect in NY, CHI, and MIA, car(s) in inspection/refurbishment). Plus now the BOS section of the LSL has a sleeper, so that kinda helps. We'll have to wait, but its most likely not going to happen quite yet.

 

[Hamhock]

I've been hoping that successful turning of the sleeper in BOS for the LSL would eventually lead to use of one for 66/67 again. It's really the best way to gradually add additional service; "well, we're already dealing with one here, we might as well..." *fingers crossed*

 

[AlanB]

With the announcement that Amtrak is seeking bids on new Viewliner sleepers it seems time to bring back the Night Owl in all its glory.

I rode #95 a few days ago. One of the trainmen told me they may add the sleeper back in October 2009. I don't know if it will be reassigned equipment or the first of the new 15 or so sleepers planned for purchase.

Amtrak is not booking any berths on 66/67 as of yesterday. They had better hurry.

Interesting. Only 39 are currently use (plus a protect in NY, CHI, and MIA, car(s) in inspection/refurbishment). Plus now the BOS section of the LSL has a sleeper, so that kinda helps. We'll have to wait, but its most likely not going to happen quite yet.

I'm not aware of any protect Viewliner stationed in Chicago. It certainly wasn't there on the 29th of July when those in the 12 sleeper instead had the luxury of an Amfleet II coach as a subsitute for their sleeper.

 

[Donctor]

I'm not aware of any protect Viewliner stationed in Chicago. It certainly wasn't there on the 29th of July when those in the 12 sleeper instead had the luxury of an Amfleet II coach as a subsitute for their sleeper.

And it certainly isn't visible in the yard.