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At the risk of getting away from the massive movie tangent...

How about coin-op (or card) lockers onboard, so that the paranoid could stow their carry-ons safely for a fee?

There are other viable options for workout areas onboard besides exercycles, as there are lots of machines at most gyms which do not have any free-swinging parts ("pec decks", leg machines, etc.).

And back to the movie obsession: how about a card-op miniature movie theater, 6 to 8 seats, showing recent TV shows and such for about 3 bucks a pop, for a 30 minute show? No commitment to a full 2 hour movie, cheap price, short term distraction for kids, and a version of the "full" experience found on the Starlight...
 
To paraphrase what Jack said in "A Few Good Men", just spitballing here, but what about more First Class Lounges/Waiting Rooms in Major Stations that lack them , as has been discussed they dont have to be Staffed, but something along the lines of STL/NOL (the Magnolia Room is under rehab and has No Magnolias! :giggle: )would work in places like Emeryville/Ft. Worth/San Antonio/Albuqurque/Kansas City/Denver (since Union Station is under rehab!)etc. Even though its small even Atlanta would be an ideal place for one!

And On-Board, I think Amtrak should bring back a Chief of On-Board Services (Non-Union Position)and also provide more First Class Lounges On-Board :wub: , the CCCs that no-one really likes would be good cantidates for this!

Lastly as one who rode many a mile in Slumber coaches, BeechGrove could convert some of the freed Up Superliners ,from Routes as is planned, into Slumber Coach Cars, I too would be willing to pay less for a Room sans meals on the One Night LD Trains, seems to be a No Brainer to me!

"People may call me a dreamer but I'm not the Only One!"-John Lennon
 
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Re: Redbox and DVDs - this is a 100% non issue to and for me because....

If you're using a laptop to play DVDs, why not just open an iTunes account (if you don't already have one) and download rental movies from there?

It doesn't have to be an Apple device, PCs work perfectly with iTunes in my experience, ymmv, but I use it on my netbook and other PCs with no problems.

You actually download the rental to your device, no streaming and no internet connection needed to play - just make sure your movies are downloaded before you go.

You can only play them on the device you rent them on but you have 30 days to watch it with a 24 hour play window.

They're usually $2.99 to $4.99 to rent and they even have HD rentals on almost all of the movies - I don't rent HD as it takes up 2x the space on my iPad.

I always have 5 - 6 movies rented and ready to watch when I'm on the train.

In fact, if you have an Android device that isn't rooted and is/was supported by the former Android Market, you can rent movies from Google Play (the former Android Market) and use the Google Video app to pin the movies for offline play.
Wifi in the stations isn't always good enough to download anything. One of the benefits of Redbox is that people don't have to plan their rental in advance.
Which is why I said download it before you go - at home.

Also, I've used Redbox and at a busy location, which is what a train station would be, you'd have a hard time getting what you want unless you reserved your rental in advance and only if it was available at the location you've chosen.

And then..... you're going to wait in line behind people who have no idea what they're doing or what they want?

Seriously.....
 
Re: Redbox and DVDs - this is a 100% non issue to and for me because....

If you're using a laptop to play DVDs, why not just open an iTunes account (if you don't already have one) and download rental movies from there?

It doesn't have to be an Apple device, PCs work perfectly with iTunes in my experience, ymmv, but I use it on my netbook and other PCs with no problems.

You actually download the rental to your device, no streaming and no internet connection needed to play - just make sure your movies are downloaded before you go.

You can only play them on the device you rent them on but you have 30 days to watch it with a 24 hour play window.

They're usually $2.99 to $4.99 to rent and they even have HD rentals on almost all of the movies - I don't rent HD as it takes up 2x the space on my iPad.

I always have 5 - 6 movies rented and ready to watch when I'm on the train.

In fact, if you have an Android device that isn't rooted and is/was supported by the former Android Market, you can rent movies from Google Play (the former Android Market) and use the Google Video app to pin the movies for offline play.
Wifi in the stations isn't always good enough to download anything. One of the benefits of Redbox is that people don't have to plan their rental in advance.
Which is why I said download it before you go - at home.

Also, I've used Redbox and at a busy location, which is what a train station would be, you'd have a hard time getting what you want unless you reserved your rental in advance and only if it was available at the location you've chosen.

And then..... you're going to wait in line behind people who have no idea what they're doing or what they want?

Seriously.....
Maybe the solution is better WiFi in stations so people could rent iTunes movies in the station and have them available on the train.
 
Maybe the solution is better WiFi in stations so people could rent iTunes movies in the station and have them available on the train.
I'll second that! Especially with getting to a station early, late trains, and long layovers. Sure, it would be nice if all trains had decent wi-fi (someday), but in the meantime, it would be fairly easy for many stations to add it.
 
Re: Redbox and DVDs - this is a 100% non issue to and for me because....

If you're using a laptop to play DVDs, why not just open an iTunes account (if you don't already have one) and download rental movies from there?

It doesn't have to be an Apple device, PCs work perfectly with iTunes in my experience, ymmv, but I use it on my netbook and other PCs with no problems.

You actually download the rental to your device, no streaming and no internet connection needed to play - just make sure your movies are downloaded before you go.

You can only play them on the device you rent them on but you have 30 days to watch it with a 24 hour play window.

They're usually $2.99 to $4.99 to rent and they even have HD rentals on almost all of the movies - I don't rent HD as it takes up 2x the space on my iPad.

I always have 5 - 6 movies rented and ready to watch when I'm on the train.

In fact, if you have an Android device that isn't rooted and is/was supported by the former Android Market, you can rent movies from Google Play (the former Android Market) and use the Google Video app to pin the movies for offline play.
Wifi in the stations isn't always good enough to download anything. One of the benefits of Redbox is that people don't have to plan their rental in advance.
Which is why I said download it before you go - at home.

Also, I've used Redbox and at a busy location, which is what a train station would be, you'd have a hard time getting what you want unless you reserved your rental in advance and only if it was available at the location you've chosen.

And then..... you're going to wait in line behind people who have no idea what they're doing or what they want?

Seriously.....
Maybe the solution is better WiFi in stations so people could rent iTunes movies in the station and have them available on the train.

Maybe the solution is better WiFi in stations so people could rent iTunes movies in the station and have them available on the train.
I'll second that! Especially with getting to a station early, late trains, and long layovers. Sure, it would be nice if all trains had decent wi-fi (someday), but in the meantime, it would be fairly easy for many stations to add it.
Better and free wifi would be wonderful and I'm no tech genius but, I'm sure there would never be enough bandwidth available for all of the massive downloading and streaming that would be going on.

I believe that Amtrak blocks bandwidth hog sites on their available wifi as it is today.

I travel with a personal 3G hotspot and it's slow, a PITA, and nearly impossible to download or stream anything with it so I use it for web browsing and email which it is excellent for - when there's a signal.

If someone has better success with theirs, they should pipe in here and give some specifics while they're at it.

Sorry, but how hard is it to download some movies before you go on a trip?

Is choosing a movie(s) to watch really that much of a spur of the moment exercise?

If so, you'd be one of those people standing at the Redbox trying to decide what you want to see.
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I have a list of over 200 movies I want to see so it's never a problem to load up with entertainment.

Redbox isn't the answer, that's for sure.
 
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I believe that Amtrak blocks bandwidth hog sites on their available wifi as it is today.
They do block high-bandwidth websites from being accessed; if you type in www.hulu.com, for example, while connected to an Amtrak WIFI, you will get a nice little Access Denied window instead. Additionally, the system only allows 10MB per user, per session. You'll be cut off if you try and download any more content than 10MB.
 
Better and free wifi would be wonderful and I'm no tech genius but, I'm sure there would never be enough bandwidth available for all of the massive downloading and streaming that would be going on.
The only chance there is of having enough bandwidth for downloading movies is if you charge for it.

1. Sorry, but how hard is it to download some movies before you go on a trip?

2. Is choosing a movie(s) to watch really that much of a spur of the moment exercise?

3. If so, you'd be one of those people standing at the Redbox trying to decide what you want to see.

4. I have a list of over 200 movies I want to see so it's never a problem to load up with entertainment.

5. Redbox isn't the answer, that's for sure.
1. Not hard at all. Assuming you're starting from a location with fast and cheap internet. What about those who start from somewhere where the internet is slow and/or blocks large downloads and/or costs a lot for access?

2. Depends on the situation. If the train is suddenly delayed or your child is suddenly fussy then yeah, it might be a spur of the moment decision.

3. And that impacts you how, exactly?

4. Bravo?

5. So if something isn't the answer for you then it's not the answer for anyone?
 
Better and free wifi would be wonderful and I'm no tech genius but, I'm sure there would never be enough bandwidth available for all of the massive downloading and streaming that would be going on.
The only chance there is of having enough bandwidth for downloading movies is if you charge for it.

1. Sorry, but how hard is it to download some movies before you go on a trip?

2. Is choosing a movie(s) to watch really that much of a spur of the moment exercise?

3. If so, you'd be one of those people standing at the Redbox trying to decide what you want to see.

4. I have a list of over 200 movies I want to see so it's never a problem to load up with entertainment.

5. Redbox isn't the answer, that's for sure.
1. Not hard at all. Assuming you're starting from a location with fast and cheap internet. What about those who start from somewhere where the internet is slow and/or blocks large downloads and/or costs a lot for access?

2. Depends on the situation. If the train is suddenly delayed or your child is suddenly fussy then yeah, it might be a spur of the moment decision.

3. And that impacts you how, exactly?

4. Bravo?

5. So if something isn't the answer for you then it's not the answer for anyone?
Ooooh, it looks like you're itching for a fight
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1. Home would be the obvious answer here. If you're on the road or just looking for free wifi, I don't have an answer.

2. Don't leave home without your movies, bring some books, have some games on your device, whatever.... I'm sure *you'll* live.

3. It wouldn't impact me unless I was desperate to get my Redbox movie at the train station which is a moot point because that will never happen to me.

Might make someone else angry though.

4. Bravo? Insult? Did you mean Hallmark or something equally as snarky and/or misognyisitic? Actually, as a long time fan of Roger Ebert and my own brain. history, likes and dislikes, and an ex-husband film-maker, that pretty much helps me with my lists but ymmv. I enjoy your posts but wth?

5. Nope. Just not the highly efficient answer that everyone is making it out to be.
 
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Re: Redbox and DVDs - this is a 100% non issue to and for me because....

If you're using a laptop to play DVDs, why not just open an iTunes account (if you don't already have one) and download rental movies from there?

It doesn't have to be an Apple device, PCs work perfectly with iTunes in my experience, ymmv, but I use it on my netbook and other PCs with no problems.

You actually download the rental to your device, no streaming and no internet connection needed to play - just make sure your movies are downloaded before you go.

You can only play them on the device you rent them on but you have 30 days to watch it with a 24 hour play window.

They're usually $2.99 to $4.99 to rent and they even have HD rentals on almost all of the movies - I don't rent HD as it takes up 2x the space on my iPad.

I always have 5 - 6 movies rented and ready to watch when I'm on the train.

In fact, if you have an Android device that isn't rooted and is/was supported by the former Android Market, you can rent movies from Google Play (the former Android Market) and use the Google Video app to pin the movies for offline play.
Wifi in the stations isn't always good enough to download anything. One of the benefits of Redbox is that people don't have to plan their rental in advance.
Which is why I said download it before you go - at home.

Also, I've used Redbox and at a busy location, which is what a train station would be, you'd have a hard time getting what you want unless you reserved your rental in advance and only if it was available at the location you've chosen.

And then..... you're going to wait in line behind people who have no idea what they're doing or what they want?

Seriously.....

I would wait. How do I know what I want unless I've planned? I don't. Which is why I said "One of the benefits of Redbox is that people don't have to plan their rental in advance."

If I knew what I wanted before I left home, why on earth would I choose to wait in line behind indecisive people and hope that the movie I want is there?
 
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That's not actually from Redbox.

The redboxfranchisecost website is no more affiliated with Redbox than this site is with Amtrak, and the "50,000 worth of foot traffic comes from a commenter there".
Well, you might feel that info posted here by the likes of AlanB and Traveler are worthless crap, but I tend to think that such info tends to be pretty reliable.
That's not the point, nor do I think it comes anywhere close to what Ryan was trying to argue.

You said you were quoting from Redbox itself, which isn't true. That would be akin to taking a post from Alan and saying it was from Amtrak itself.
Thanks, I was out all day and am just getting back to this.

That's exactly what I was going for. I'm not sure how anyone could come up with the interpretation that I said Alan's posts are "worthless crap". He's got a long history of posting accurate information, something that a random dude on "redboxfranchisecosts.com" doesn't have. Redbox might require that kind of foot traffic, but you're going to have to find a better source if you're going to stand by that claim.
 
While I think it would be expensive to retro-fit the cars, I think having a section of Coach with "lay-flat" seats like they have on international flights would be really nice. I'd happily pay for the upgrade. Even though a roomette does include meals, the cost is still prohibitive sometimes, especially when it's just an overnight trip with maybe one meal. For those trips, I'd happily pay another $50 to be able to put my seat all the way back.
 
Re: Redbox and DVDs - this is a 100% non issue to and for me because....

If you're using a laptop to play DVDs, why not just open an iTunes account (if you don't already have one) and download rental movies from there?

It doesn't have to be an Apple device, PCs work perfectly with iTunes in my experience, ymmv, but I use it on my netbook and other PCs with no problems.

You actually download the rental to your device, no streaming and no internet connection needed to play - just make sure your movies are downloaded before you go.

You can only play them on the device you rent them on but you have 30 days to watch it with a 24 hour play window.

They're usually $2.99 to $4.99 to rent and they even have HD rentals on almost all of the movies - I don't rent HD as it takes up 2x the space on my iPad.

I always have 5 - 6 movies rented and ready to watch when I'm on the train.

In fact, if you have an Android device that isn't rooted and is/was supported by the former Android Market, you can rent movies from Google Play (the former Android Market) and use the Google Video app to pin the movies for offline play.
Wifi in the stations isn't always good enough to download anything. One of the benefits of Redbox is that people don't have to plan their rental in advance.
Which is why I said download it before you go - at home.

Also, I've used Redbox and at a busy location, which is what a train station would be, you'd have a hard time getting what you want unless you reserved your rental in advance and only if it was available at the location you've chosen.

And then..... you're going to wait in line behind people who have no idea what they're doing or what they want?

Seriously.....

I would wait. How do I know what I want unless I've planned? I don't. Which is why I said "One of the benefits of Redbox is that people don't have to plan their rental in advance."

If I knew what I wanted before I left home, why on earth would I choose to wait in line behind indecisive people and hope that the movie I want is there?
What?????
 
Re: Redbox and DVDs - this is a 100% non issue to and for me because....

If you're using a laptop to play DVDs, why not just open an iTunes account (if you don't already have one) and download rental movies from there?

It doesn't have to be an Apple device, PCs work perfectly with iTunes in my experience, ymmv, but I use it on my netbook and other PCs with no problems.

You actually download the rental to your device, no streaming and no internet connection needed to play - just make sure your movies are downloaded before you go.

You can only play them on the device you rent them on but you have 30 days to watch it with a 24 hour play window.

They're usually $2.99 to $4.99 to rent and they even have HD rentals on almost all of the movies - I don't rent HD as it takes up 2x the space on my iPad.

I always have 5 - 6 movies rented and ready to watch when I'm on the train.

In fact, if you have an Android device that isn't rooted and is/was supported by the former Android Market, you can rent movies from Google Play (the former Android Market) and use the Google Video app to pin the movies for offline play.
Wifi in the stations isn't always good enough to download anything. One of the benefits of Redbox is that people don't have to plan their rental in advance.
Which is why I said download it before you go - at home.

Also, I've used Redbox and at a busy location, which is what a train station would be, you'd have a hard time getting what you want unless you reserved your rental in advance and only if it was available at the location you've chosen.

And then..... you're going to wait in line behind people who have no idea what they're doing or what they want?

Seriously.....

I would wait. How do I know what I want unless I've planned? I don't. Which is why I said "One of the benefits of Redbox is that people don't have to plan their rental in advance."

If I knew what I wanted before I left home, why on earth would I choose to wait in line behind indecisive people and hope that the movie I want is there?
What?????
Sorry, poorly worded. Anyway,

It isn't possible to download something in advance, at home, if one hasn't planned to do so.

"Download it before you go" is not a helpful suggestion for the person that arrives at the station and then decides that having a movie for the trip might be nice. Believe it or not, there are people who would see a Redbox and think, "oh, I could use a movie for my trip," but wouldn't put much thought into it ahead of time, or wouldn't have time to worry about it beforehand. I, for one, would be unlikely to download anything at home in anticipation of an upcoming train trip. I would be quite likely to stop at a Redbox and rent something without any planning.
 
Not responding to ANY of the previous posts.

I think in the current technical environment, I would have a high def video screen in each compartment and in, I dunno, some parts of coach. I would offer the passengers a variety of movies or other video entertainment, or digital music to order in a jukebox or random mode, and I would offer a GPS screen so pax could track the train position. The screen could be used to display announcements as well, upcoming stations, dinner settings, safety announcements, etc.

Would be great if they could make the bunks more comfortable, maybe add some memory foam pads to those mattresses.

High speed Internet is almost not worth mentioning, because in short order people will demand it and get it, like cell service which was once more spotty.

I think the food could be greatly improved, I know they're trying but geez.

Always strive for the optimum environment, not the minimum environment!
 
Not responding to ANY of the previous posts.

I think in the current technical environment, I would have a high def video screen in each compartment and in, I dunno, some parts of coach. I would offer the passengers a variety of movies or other video entertainment, or digital music to order in a jukebox or random mode, and I would offer a GPS screen so pax could track the train position. The screen could be used to display announcements as well, upcoming stations, dinner settings, safety announcements, etc.

Would be great if they could make the bunks more comfortable, maybe add some memory foam pads to those mattresses.

High speed Internet is almost not worth mentioning, because in short order people will demand it and get it, like cell service which was once more spotty.

I think the food could be greatly improved, I know they're trying but geez.

Always strive for the optimum environment, not the minimum environment!
Question: Where in the roomettes would you watch a high def screen? It seems cool, but placement would be difficult.
 
I believe that Amtrak blocks bandwidth hog sites on their available wifi as it is today.
They do block high-bandwidth websites from being accessed; if you type in www.hulu.com, for example, while connected to an Amtrak WIFI, you will get a nice little Access Denied window instead. Additionally, the system only allows 10MB per user, per session. You'll be cut off if you try and download any more content than 10MB.
The system blocks you from downloading any single file that's larger than 10MB, there is no per-session limit. Your connection to the network is rate-limited, however the bottleneck is almost always the bandwidth off the train, so it doesn't kick in much.

Everything is subject to change when LTE is rolled out, but there will still have to be limits set to the lowest common denominator.

As for providing locally stored entertainment when the system is installed on the LD equipment, the system is capable of it, but I have no direct knowledge of Amtrak Marketing's current plans for that.
 
Re: Redbox and DVDs - this is a 100% non issue to and for me because....

If you're using a laptop to play DVDs, why not just open an iTunes account (if you don't already have one) and download rental movies from there?

It doesn't have to be an Apple device, PCs work perfectly with iTunes in my experience, ymmv, but I use it on my netbook and other PCs with no problems.

You actually download the rental to your device, no streaming and no internet connection needed to play - just make sure your movies are downloaded before you go.

You can only play them on the device you rent them on but you have 30 days to watch it with a 24 hour play window.

They're usually $2.99 to $4.99 to rent and they even have HD rentals on almost all of the movies - I don't rent HD as it takes up 2x the space on my iPad.

I always have 5 - 6 movies rented and ready to watch when I'm on the train.

In fact, if you have an Android device that isn't rooted and is/was supported by the former Android Market, you can rent movies from Google Play (the former Android Market) and use the Google Video app to pin the movies for offline play.
Wifi in the stations isn't always good enough to download anything. One of the benefits of Redbox is that people don't have to plan their rental in advance.
Which is why I said download it before you go - at home.

Also, I've used Redbox and at a busy location, which is what a train station would be, you'd have a hard time getting what you want unless you reserved your rental in advance and only if it was available at the location you've chosen.

And then..... you're going to wait in line behind people who have no idea what they're doing or what they want?

Seriously.....

I would wait. How do I know what I want unless I've planned? I don't. Which is why I said "One of the benefits of Redbox is that people don't have to plan their rental in advance."

If I knew what I wanted before I left home, why on earth would I choose to wait in line behind indecisive people and hope that the movie I want is there?
What?????
Sorry, poorly worded. Anyway,

It isn't possible to download something in advance, at home, if one hasn't planned to do so.

"Download it before you go" is not a helpful suggestion for the person that arrives at the station and then decides that having a movie for the trip might be nice. Believe it or not, there are people who would see a Redbox and think, "oh, I could use a movie for my trip," but wouldn't put much thought into it ahead of time, or wouldn't have time to worry about it beforehand. I, for one, would be unlikely to download anything at home in anticipation of an upcoming train trip. I would be quite likely to stop at a Redbox and rent something without any planning.
Well, in that case, knock yourself out.

As someone who has no problem going with the flow... i.e. delays are no problem for me at all, I don't have a problem being prepared for anything in advance... or not.

I won't be the one sitting in the middle of timbuktu wishing there was a Redbox or free wifi nearby
tongue.gif
 
The system blocks you from downloading any single file that's larger than 10MB, there is no per-session limit. Your connection to the network is rate-limited, however the bottleneck is almost always the bandwidth off the train, so it doesn't kick in much.

Everything is subject to change when LTE is rolled out, but there will still have to be limits set to the lowest common denominator.

As for providing locally stored entertainment when the system is installed on the LD equipment, the system is capable of it, but I have no direct knowledge of Amtrak Marketing's current plans for that.
I am corrected. I have had limited luck on the Capital Corridor when it comes to access, and I routinely re-start my session in order to continue my on-line activity. As such, I took the 10MB I had read as being per session, instead of per-file.

I'll be on the San Joaquin on Thursday and have plenty of time to test the connection as I'm going from Sacramento all the way to Bakersfield, and eventually all the way to San Diego.

Alright, make that an additional wish. MegaBus has it already and advertises heavily. So does BoltBus. WiFi on the AmBus!! We out here in California find the thruway a thing to be contended with if we travel north-to-south and reverse due to terrain (and the Tehachipi loop) so could we have WiFi on the bus too? We at least get it on the trains now! :lol:
 
I had a quality free wifi signal on the Amtrak bus from Santa Rosa to Martinez.

Enough bandwidth to support a video Facetime conversation on my iPad almost the entire way.
 
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I had a quality free wifi signal on the Amtrak bus from Santa Rosa to Martinez.
REALLY!?! Well, then! I am looking forward to Thursday even more now!! I'll be rearing to fire up the laptop for WiFi!
 
Which is why I said download it before you go - at home.

Also, I've used Redbox and at a busy location, which is what a train station would be, you'd have a hard time getting what you want unless you reserved your rental in advance and only if it was available at the location you've chosen.

And then..... you're going to wait in line behind people who have no idea what they're doing or what they want?

Seriously.....

I would wait. How do I know what I want unless I've planned? I don't. Which is why I said "One of the benefits of Redbox is that people don't have to plan their rental in advance."

If I knew what I wanted before I left home, why on earth would I choose to wait in line behind indecisive people and hope that the movie I want is there?
What?????
Sorry, poorly worded. Anyway,

It isn't possible to download something in advance, at home, if one hasn't planned to do so.

"Download it before you go" is not a helpful suggestion for the person that arrives at the station and then decides that having a movie for the trip might be nice. Believe it or not, there are people who would see a Redbox and think, "oh, I could use a movie for my trip," but wouldn't put much thought into it ahead of time, or wouldn't have time to worry about it beforehand. I, for one, would be unlikely to download anything at home in anticipation of an upcoming train trip. I would be quite likely to stop at a Redbox and rent something without any planning.
Well, in that case, knock yourself out.

As someone who has no problem going with the flow... i.e. delays are no problem for me at all, I don't have a problem being prepared for anything in advance... or not.

I won't be the one sitting in the middle of timbuktu wishing there was a Redbox or free wifi nearby
tongue.gif

Now I've got a Redbox ad at the top of this AU page.
 
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