Proposal for Extending Crescent to SAS & Improving TE schedule

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Uh . . . .

Philly wanted a direct Sunset Limited to Crescent connection. Not my idea, but a good idea if it's possible.

If the 1.5 hrs connection at NOL isn't legal, how is the CS #14 to EB #28 at PDX connection legal? That's only *1 hr 13 minutes*. I looked online and from 1/1/16 to 6/30/16 it missed it 8% of the time.

Or CS #11 to SL #2 connection at LAX? That's only *1 hour*. Online, from 3/16/16 to 6/30/16, it missed it 5% of the time. For a short connection, that's pretty good. Of course, this isn't the SL, but still pretty good.

The SAN connection might have to sacrificed to get more time into the NOL connection and get #20 to depart NOL earlier if 9:05pm/9:34pm at Atlanta is still too late (which it could be, I've seen #20 2 hrs late on track-a-train multiple times).

Well then, how much time is required for this connection?

I just looked online for how late #2 was into NOL. Out of 99 results from 1/1/16 to today, it was more than 1 hr 25 mins late only 14 times, and only 6 of those would involve holding the Crescent more than 30 minutes.

On a few 14 to 28 or 11 to 2 connections, the 28 or 2 was held some amount of time at its originating station, making the number of missed connections by schedule more for these.

https://juckins.net/amtrak_status/archive/html/history.php?train_num=2&station=NOL&date_start=01%2F01%2F2016&date_end=08%2F16%2F2016&df1=1&df2=1&df3=1&df4=1&df5=1&df6=1&df7=1&sort=schAr&sort_dir=DESC&co=gt&limit_mins=&dfon=1
 
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I don't know if there is any set minimum, but I have noticed that from CL to NEC Regionals whenever I had tried to book a connection they have tried to ease me towards 2 hours.

I can understand both the PDX and the LAX one because there is a clear possibility to bus/taxi in case of an evolving misconnect situation to force a connection. I am not sure whether such a possibility exists from Lafyette to Slidell or some such for SL to the Crescent.
 
It could also be used for passengers connected to the CONO, right now all 3 arrivals are after all 3 departures so there are no same day train connections in NOL. It would probably actually be better to use a CONO sleeper because they are there for about 20 hours, the SL turnaround time is only 11 hours.
 
Well then, the Sunset Limited will have to use a Viewliner sleeper, same with the CONO.

I guess it is possible to to do P42-P42-Baggage-ViewlinerCrescent-TransitionSleeper-rest of train

But that would be strange.

And would they lock the doors to the single Viewliner (or maybe two) at NOL overnight? It would be insecure just having an open, occupied train car sitting in the station overnight.
 
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Just to remind you all of the context of Max's schedule shifts:

http://discuss.amtraktrains.com/index.php?/topic/65927-proposal-for-extending-crescent-to-sas-improving-te-schedule/?p=640928

The eastern plan is difficult but the western seems to work nice IMO.

Proposed times:
NOL 10:00P

HOS 7:18A/7:55A

SAS 1:05P/3:45P

Tucson 7:45/8:35A

Maricopa 9:52/10:02A

LAX 6:35P

Proposed 401 (Through cars DAL-SAS):

DAL 6:10A

FTW 7:10A

Austin 11:30A

SAS 2:55P

Proposed 822

HOS 8:25A
DAL 3:05P/3:30P

FTW 4:30P/5:25P

OKC 9:23P
 
I do think 4 nights cross-country is unnecessary.

Maybe if the SL goes to Fullerton and Riverside on BNSF then use the Colton crossings to get onto UP and continue, then #763 could connect with #2 with no ill effect. To me there's no huge difference moving Pomona and Ontario down to FUL and RIV.

From SAN Pac-Surf #763

SAN 607A

FUL 822A

(LAX 857A irrelevant)

*PSN is Palm Springs CA

From LAX Sunset Limited #2

LAX 845A

FUL 920A (#763 arrives FUL at 8:22A, so 58 minutes to connect, I think that's enough)

RIV 1003A

PSN 1136A (I did the math for RIV-PSN via Colton crossings and I got 82 minutes. I made it 93 to make sure it's not late, and to line it up with the current schedule on the hour.)

TUC 728P/743P

ELP 138A/143A

SAS 258P/328P

HOS 813P/830P

NOL 600A

How many hours at NOL are needed?

NOL 800A

BHM 315P/324P

ATL 835P/904P

CLT 221A/246A

CVS 809A

WAS 1053A

NYP 246P

If the Colton crossings are usable, then this might work.

Then again, connections to DAL are pretty late-night even without thru cars

SAS 331P (train will wait for #2)

AUS 602P

FTW 1029P/1034P

DAL 1134P

Oh, and the burrito lady will have to relocate to ABQ cause no one wants to eat burritos at 2am!
 
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