Last week they ran a two car Bombardier with P40 train due to slippery(leaf) rail.
The Electrics just could not make the hill without sand.
The Electrics just could not make the hill without sand.
What hill is that? Talmadge Hill? Do P40's get better traction?Last week they ran a two car Bombardier with P40 train due to slippery(leaf) rail.The Electrics just could not make the hill without sand.
How many trains did they run like this? I commuted on Monday, Tuesday morning and Friday evening, I didn't notice this.Last week they ran a two car Bombardier with P40 train due to slippery(leaf) rail.The Electrics just could not make the hill without sand.
Another question would be, where did they get the P40's from? Unless they made all the through trains stop for a passenger transfer at Stamford, they would have needed a fair number. I suppose there must be a more slippery time of day?Last week they ran a two car Bombardier with P40 train due to slippery(leaf) rail.
The Electrics just could not make the hill without sand.
I can't tell if I'm glad or sad that I missed this. Sounds like a bit of a pain. especially with the 7:41 out of Talmadge Hill, my train, having to stop at Stamford (it usually doesn't) and getting packed. What does ConnDOT do with these locomotives? ConnDOT doesn't operate any railway, so far as I know - the MTA runs Metro-North (with partial funding from ConnDOT) and Amtrak runs SLE (also funded by ConnDOT) but does ConnDOT actually own any equipment of its own?Well as Battalion noted above CDOT leased several of Amtrak's mothballed P40's. My guess would be that they probably stopped at Stamford and transferred them to electrics, but Dutch might know for sure.
I can't tell if I'm glad or sad that I missed this. Sounds like a bit of a pain. especially with the 7:41 out of Talmadge Hill, my train, having to stop at Stamford (it usually doesn't) and getting packed. What does ConnDOT do with these locomotives? ConnDOT doesn't operate any railway, so far as I know - the MTA runs Metro-North (with partial funding from ConnDOT) and Amtrak runs SLE (also funded by ConnDOT) but does ConnDOT actually own any equipment of its own?Well as Battalion noted above CDOT leased several of Amtrak's mothballed P40's. My guess would be that they probably stopped at Stamford and transferred them to electrics, but Dutch might know for sure.
yes, I think that all New Haven line expenditures on done this as per some court ruling in the '80s.I believe that I read some where that CT thought CDOT, is paying approximately 60% of the contract cost, while NY through Metro North pays the other 40%.
I was always confused by this since many of the locomotives are in the Amtrak livery. Of course, many of the cars are in VRE livery (some kind of railroad!) so I suppose the livery means just about nothing. The locos must be the P40's that Battalion was talking about.Amtrak certainly doesn't own the equipment.
Yes, if you see an Amtrak engine pulling Metro North equipment and/or SLE equipment, then it is most likely one of the leased engines. The fact that the engines are only leased probably has something to do with why they are still in Amtrak livery. The VRE equipment I think has more to do with their rushing to get those cars on the road, and perhaps not wanting to spend the money to repaint them.I was always confused by this since many of the locomotives are in the Amtrak livery. Of course, many of the cars are in VRE livery (some kind of railroad!) so I suppose the livery means just about nothing. The locos must be the P40's that Battalion was talking about.Amtrak certainly doesn't own the equipment.
Dutchrailnut;The day with P40 on branch was saterday a weeek ago when high wind and rain knocked most tleefs free all at once.
Conndot owns the Following.
about 2/3th's of all M2/M4/M6 equipment.
They own 6 FL9m's in New Haven livery.
They own 4 P32acdm's in New Haven Livery.
They own 6 GP40-2h in new haven livery.
They own 11 Constitution liners (ex SPV)
They own about 48 Bombardier Push Pull Cars.
They own 33 ex VRE push pull cars.
ConnDOT is leasing 8 ill maintained P40's from Amtrak, 6 for MNCR shuttles and 2 for SLE duty.
before anyone disputes the Ill maintained, consider the 55 gallons of oil per 24 hour they use.
These 8 locomotives are to be replaced by 11 shuttle/worktrain locomotives ordered from Brookville mining in Pa.
The first 6 rebuilt VRE's are now on road in ConnDot livery:
http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo=20...&bydate%3A9
Sorry...I've never seen a passenger unit with the flares. Nothing like those units has ever run in this area that I know of after the SDP-45's left. Just what were the 200 and 300's ?Just because you see a flared radiator housing does not make them SD45's they are GP40-2h units and were built in Canada at AMF, they may have used housings from freight units.
as for P40's the units can not have been in 200 or 300 numbers as P40's are and always were numbered in 800 series.
The 200 - 400 series was largely used by the F40 series.Sorry...I've never seen a passenger unit with the flares. Nothing like those units has ever run in this area that I know of after the SDP-45's left. Just what were the 200 and 300's ?Just because you see a flared radiator housing does not make them SD45's they are GP40-2h units and were built in Canada at AMF, they may have used housings from freight units.
as for P40's the units can not have been in 200 or 300 numbers as P40's are and always were numbered in 800 series.
Alan;The 200 - 400 series was largely used by the F40 series.Sorry...I've never seen a passenger unit with the flares. Nothing like those units has ever run in this area that I know of after the SDP-45's left. Just what were the 200 and 300's ?Just because you see a flared radiator housing does not make them SD45's they are GP40-2h units and were built in Canada at AMF, they may have used housings from freight units.
as for P40's the units can not have been in 200 or 300 numbers as P40's are and always were numbered in 800 series.
F40PH 200-228
F40PHR 229-409
F40PH 410-415
That would make more sense too, since doing switching ops with a P40 could be pretty interesting, since a P40 looks just like the P42's that currently haul most Amtrak trains today. There are no railings or steps to stand on and backing up is lots of fun too. The F40 would be far more suited to switching ops on the other hand.Alan;The 200 - 400 series was largely used by the F40 series.
F40PH 200-228
F40PHR 229-409
F40PH 410-415
The F will get you everytime...
Alan;That would make more sense too, since doing switching ops with a P40 could be pretty interesting, since a P40 looks just like the P42's that currently haul most Amtrak trains today. There are no railings or steps to stand on and backing up is lots of fun too. The F40 would be far more suited to switching ops on the other hand.Alan;The 200 - 400 series was largely used by the F40 series.
F40PH 200-228
F40PHR 229-409
F40PH 410-415
The F will get you everytime...
By the way, just as a side note, the current P42 numbers actually invade the F40 range, since they run up to 209. However, since all of the Amtrak F40's have been retired, demotored, or sold, it doesn't create a problem.
Actually Alan, the highest the P-42's go is 207. Amtrak does still have a few F-40's hanging around on its property, supposedly some of these still hanging around are going to be converted to Cabbage to be used in Michigan and Illinois service where there is a need for a cab on each end of the train.By the way, just as a side note, the current P42 numbers actually invade the F40 range, since they run up to 209. However, since all of the Amtrak F40's have been retired, demotored, or sold, it doesn't create a problem.
Oops, slight slip of the finger.Actually Alan, the highest the P-42's go is 207.By the way, just as a side note, the current P42 numbers actually invade the F40 range, since they run up to 209. However, since all of the Amtrak F40's have been retired, demotored, or sold, it doesn't create a problem.
They may be hanging around, but they are not on the active roster meaning that Amtrak considers them retired and therefore they don't cause conflicts with the current "active" engines.Amtrak does still have a few F-40's hanging around on its property, supposedly some of these still hanging around are going to be converted to Cabbage to be used in Michigan and Illinois service where there is a need for a cab on each end of the train.
Yes their still being operated, as museum stuff they have no value, and as far as spare parts their a nightmare.<_< <_< Do the Constitution Liners - Former SPV2000 - still operate on the ShoreLine East RR? I rode them with my wife in the Summer of 2004.
I have been told Multiple times that they have "Little or No Historical Valve" and would be sold as Scrap -
when they are done being used.
I talked to a former Budd Company employee who worked on the SPV 2000's. He didn't tell me what way he worked on them. It was his project he said. And....They have - "Little or No Historical value" - yet, all the Books about Budd / RDC's mention them. They have one in the Eastern Ct RR musuem. They end up on display in all types of pictures about Railroads : Internet, Books, Videos and Other venues. - A point to Ponder.Yes their still being operated, as museum stuff they have no value, and as far as spare parts their a nightmare.<_< <_< Do the Constitution Liners - Former SPV2000 - still operate on the ShoreLine East RR?
I rode them with my wife in the Summer of 2004.
I have been told Multiple times that they have "Little or No Historical Valve" and would be sold as Scrap -
when they are done being used.
expect them to be stored or scrapped after retirement or replacement by the Mafersa cars CDOT bought.