Siemens Charger Locomotives Not So Pretty Looking

[seat38a]

Well, looks don't mean anything but looking at the renderings of the Charger Engines, my eyes aren't that thrilled.

http://cleantechnica.com/2014/03/27/usa-high-speed-rail-gets-boost-32-train-order-siemens-trains/

These will be pulling and pushing the Surfliners, SJ, and CC. Can't say it will win any beauty contests. Then again, American Airlines new color scheme looked repulsive at first, but its grown on me as well.

 

[rickycourtney]

Old news.

It looks very similar to the early renderings of the ACS-64... I personally I think that the finished version of the ACS-64 is good looking. That gives me hope for the Charger.

Plus I think it's better looking than renderings for EMD's new F125 passenger locomotive.

 

[OlympianHiawatha]

It's time for another Art Deco Era!

 

[PerRock]

If I had to guess the Chargers will look pretty similar to the ACS-64s.

peter

 

[The Davy Crockett]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. IMHO they will look awfully sweet when doing 110+ mph!

 

[BCL]

Looks fine to me. However, I like the look of the Genesis body more than the EMDs that CC mostly runs.

 

[GG-1]

But Nothing equals the beauty of a GG-1

Aloha

 

[frequentflyer]

Well, looks don't mean anything but looking at the renderings of the Charger Engines, my eyes aren't that thrilled.

http://cleantechnica.com/2014/03/27/usa-high-speed-rail-gets-boost-32-train-order-siemens-trains/

These will be pulling and pushing the Surfliners, SJ, and CC. Can't say it will win any beauty contests. Then again, American Airlines new color scheme looked repulsive at first, but its grown on me as well.

AA's livery is still repulsive.

 

[neroden]

I have no complaints about the locomotive appearance. But then, I heard a saying once: "a railfan looks at the locomotive, a railroader looks at what it's hauling". I certainly think I'm a railfan and I would not claim to be a railroader, but I never really look at the locomotives. To me it's all about the rolling stock, which the passengers will spend hours sitting in -- hopefully the passenger cars are attractive and easy for the passengers to use, and who cares what's pulling them as long as it works?

 

[user 1215]

My favorite engine livery is ... NONE.

I'm a big fan of distributed power in either EMUs or DMUs.

 

[jis]

What proportion of axles in what distribution need to be powered for it to be considered an E/DMU?

Any views on the livery of the front and rear cars?

 

[user 1215]

Doesn't need to be every axle. I think most of the commuter trains in Japan have two out of 10 cars that not only collect power but have two powered bogies for a total of 8 powered axles out of 40.

But I think the latest shinkansens have ALL their axles powered from two power collecting units.

I actually like the Acela livery a lot. The Cascade Talgos are pretty nice, too. I like the paint scheme, I just don't like the pig-smashed-against-a-window look of the cab car. I guess I just like everything to flow from nose to tail - then back again. Same train going and coming. And that's where my biggest issues with JR East are - when they combine two shinkansen that don't look anything alike !

 

[jis]

I actually like the Acela livery a lot. The Cascade Talgos are pretty nice, too. I like the paint scheme, I just don't like the pig-smashed-against-a-window look of the cab car. I guess I just like everything to flow from nose to tail - then back again. Same train going and coming. And that's where my biggest issues with JR East are - when they combine two shinkansen that don't look anything alike !

Yeah, the Morioka and Akita Shinkansens smashed together looked really weird.

 

[choochoodood]

Looks better than the Talgos, for sure!

 

[Steve4031]

And definitely looks better than horizons.

 

[Green Maned Lion]

I think that looks like a rendering.

 

[neroden]

What proportion of axles in what distribution need to be powered for it to be considered an E/DMU?

As far as I am concerned, passenger seating in the powered car(s) is the sole requirement.

 

[dmclement]

My favorite engine livery is ... NONE.

I'm a big fan of distributed power in either EMUs or DMUs.

It takes all sorts

 

[dmclement]

Duplicated

 

[dmclement]

What proportion of axles in what distribution need to be powered for it to be considered an E/DMU?

As far as I am concerned, passenger seating in the powered car(s) is the sole requirement.

Agreed. Eurostar Class 373's are a good example, having power cars at each end of the train and one powered bogie in each adjacent coach.

 

[railiner]

It's time for another Art Deco Era!

You mean something like this?

https://www.google.com/search?q=pioneer+zephyr&biw=1440&bih=813&tbm=isch&imgil=ElIq4Lxl5rtjbM%253A%253BJUpl53Tr29DulM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.wig-wag-trains.com%25252FCon-Cor%2525252520Pages%25252FCon-Cor-Zephyr-Product-Page.htm&source=iu&fir=ElIq4Lxl5rtjbM%253A%252CJUpl53Tr29DulM%252C_&usg=__-c6Au7-nr80NgISFZ7x32Py0tww%3D&sa=X&ei=n7AKVIGSM4TCsASG-4JQ&sqi=2&ved=0CCwQ9QEwAQ

 

[The Davy Crockett]

It's time for another Art Deco Era!

You mean something like this?

How many times can I vote YES for this?

I'd even be willing to ride behind a Sweedish Meatball to Jersey, to make sure it would be AT LEAST twice.

 

[Green Maned Lion]

I hate Art Deco. Victorian all the way.

 

[railiner]

I hate Art Deco. Victorian all the way.

Better not go down to the 'South Beach' section of Miami Beach then.....might be overwhelming...

Also, stay away from the Empire State Building, Radio City Music Hall, etc.

Seriously, hate art deco? I feel sorry for you....

Personally, I find all period's of design interesting in their own way....

 

[Acela150]

I hate Art Deco. Victorian all the way.

Someone has been spoiled by the Cape May, NJ Area...

Here's a tidbit.. I don't give a "hoot" what it looks like.. If it works properly that's all I give a "hoot" about..