Siemens Dual Mode Class 248/249

[Just-Thinking-51]

The new class designation 249 was also therefore chosen, because numerous changes had resulted compared to the units already delivered. The 249 was thus equipped with a forward mounted brakeman's platform and switching couplers that could be folded up. This means the locomotive is a bit longer and now measures 20,500 millimeters / 67 feet 3 inches over the buffers compared to the class 248 with 19,980 millimeters / 65 feet 6 inches. The output on the diesel motor has been reduced to 1,120 kilowatts / 1,502 horsepower, while the electrical output was increased slightly and is now 2,200 kilowatts / 2,949 horsepower. The diesel tank is now smaller, which has led to a reduction in the axle load to 21 metric tons, thus allowing this locomotive to be used on branch lines.

https://www.mobility.siemens.com/gl...ling-stock/locomotives/vectron/dual-mode.html
https://euromodeltrains.com/products/marklin-39290

So I somehow miss this a few years back. I recently bought it for my basement empire, that why one of the links is for a model. However I posted the real Siemens link as a see what there doing in Europe. Just bit surprised that we’re spending so much oxygen try to reinvent the wheel here in the US.

 

[jis]

Interesting! It is a German 15kV 16.7Hz engine in the electric mode. So not quite usable out of the box anywhere in the US.

 

[GDRRiley]

Interesting! It is a German 15kV 16.7Hz engine in the electric mode. So not quite usable out of the box anywhere in the US.

I believe its close enough to the 12.5kv 25hz network to just get used over here given the ICE1 and SJ X2000 were not modified electrically

 

[jis]

I believe its close enough to the 12.5kv 25hz network to just get used over here given the ICE1 and SJ X2000 were not modified electrically

Yes. 16.7Hz transformer should work fine under 25Hz. But it will have to stay away from any 60Hz electrification. So it can live on NEC South and that's about it.

 

[Dutchrailnut]

The horsepower is pathetic for use in US , by time you take off HEP from those ratings there would be nothing left to move train.

the ICE and X-2000 did fine on 60hz of New Haven line .

 

[jis]

The horsepower is pathetic for use in US , by time you take off HEP from those ratings there would be nothing left to move train.

I was thinking exactly that.

the ICE and X-2000 did fine on 60hz of New Haven line .

They did fine on 25Hz of PRR too. Afterall they are normally designed for 16.7Hz.

 

[Just-Thinking-51]

The EMD FL9 was 1750 to 1800 hp depending on the year/rebuild.

The class 249 is designed for final mile work. Push and pulling cars from factories/warehouse sliding.

 

[Caesar La Rock]

DB is getting these type of locomotives from Siemens to operate with their ICE L trains. I believe they'll be leasing them. They'll be temporary, due to the Talgo multi system locomotives being late for delivery. The ICE L trains are 235m long Talgo sets that'll have 17 cars. They'll be replacing the Intercity passenger cars dating from the 1970s-1980s.

 

[Dutchrailnut]

The EMD FL9 was 1750 to 1800 hp depending on the year/rebuild.

The class 249 is designed for final mile work. Push and pulling cars from factories/warehouse sliding.

I ran FL-9's for 25 years , first they were only really good for 4 cars when running as single and HEP was provided by separate 800 Kw Cummins.
I know what class 249 is used for in Europe but earlier in this tread someone wondered about US use of this technology.