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hi all,

We're going to be in the states in august, and want to travel the west coast on the trains.

I'm starting in Seattle, was hoping to see Portland for an hour or two and then travel down to san francisco, to LA and up to Vegas, as in Vegas, we're picking up a car.

Portland seems to be proving difficult to get more than 40 mins there on the multi city option, and I understand the train doesn't go right into San Francisco itself, and I have to get a coach in?

Has anyone got any tips or ideas? So far we've looked at the multi city options on the website, which seems fine, but Portland is proving difficult, although having bee there before, I'm not desperate to see it again, my I think my mate would like to.

Any help and advice yo can offer would be amazing! Basically the best way to go through them all, or leaving out Portland.

Thank you, Lizzy x
 
Have you thought of spending a night or two in Portland instead? :blush:

Without looking, I believe there has to be more than a 40 minute stop in Portland, as the Coast Starlight does not depart from Portland until after 1430, and I believe there are other trains from Seattle departing early morning.
 
First train of the day from Seattle to Portland arrives Portland around 11:30 AM, with the Coast Starlight (the only train from Portland to San Francisco) departing Portland about 150 minutes later. So, if you want to have enough time to see a lot of Portland, you will need to plan on arriving Portland the day before.
 
The train goes to Emeryville, CA. From there, you will need to take a bus into San Francisco.

Additionally, if you want to take the train to Las Vegas, NV, please note that you cannot take amtrak all the way there. You can take a bus from Los Angeles to Vegas, or you can the Southwest Chief Train to a guaranteed connection bus/van that will take you into Las Vegas. But you cannot take the train to Las Vegas, NV with the casinos and what not.
 
We're going to be in the states in august, and want to travel the west coast on the trains.I'm starting in Seattle, was hoping to see Portland for an hour or two and then travel down to san francisco, to LA and up to Vegas, as in Vegas,
There is no train service to Las Vegas, NV The best way to Las Vegas, NV from the west coast is from LA Union Station; there is an Amtrak thruway (Greyhound) bus connection directly to Las Vegas.

It boards at the bus connections at the opposite end of the tunnel from the LA Union Station's waiting room and tickets can be and should be purchased thru Amtrak.

Note: don't get confused by the other Las Vegas, which is in New Mexico, and is served by Amtrak, but NO casinos.
 
Dorothy,

San Francisco is on a long peninsula between the San Francisco Bay and the Pacific Ocean. The only railroad connection into San Francisco is from the south. Historically, trains ran from San Francisco south to San Jose and Los Angeles (and CalTrans wants to bring inter-city service to this line again in the future). Today, this line is served by Caltrain commuter trains between San Jose and San Francisco. Anyway, since the Coast Starlight comes and goes from the north, it can't get into San Francisco directly.

There is a bus from the Emeryville station that is dedicated for Amtrak passengers. It connects with the train (and waits for it if it's late). There are other options for crossing the Bay, too. One of San Francisco's subways (BART) has a line crossing the bay, and trains are fast and frequent. Unfortunately, none of the BART stations are directly adjacent to places where the Coast Starlight stops. There are also ferry connections.

Emeryville may not be in San Francisco, but it's part of an integrated region. I suppose the best analogy would be to an airport. Most of those aren't directly in the city, either. At least with Amtrak, they give you a direct bus ride across the Bay Bridge. And Emeryville is probably closer to Downtown San Francisco than most airports are to their city-center.

The West Coast:

As for touring the west coast, you will be treated to some spectacular scenery.

Seattle is one of my favorite American cities. There's lots to see and do, and the locals are very friendly. The city is in a beautiful setting, too, with water on both sides of Downtown and distant mountains visible to the east and west. And of course, the massive Mount Rainier lurks to the south.

If you're going to Portland, keep in mind that it's not a huge, cosmopolitan place. There is plenty to do there, of course. But if all you've got is 2 hours in the city, all you're probably going to have time to see is the train station, and maybe ride the light rail (tram) through Downtown and back. Spending a day or two would give you a lot more time to see things.

There's only one daily train in each direction between Portland and Sacramento, the Coast Starlight. You will go through some very mountainous areas, but depending on what time of year, a lot of the scenery will be after dark. In the summer, the light lasts longer.

The capital of the state of California is Sacramento. There is frequent Amtrak service between Sacramento and the Bay Area (San Francisco). I don't know how much time you have to play around with, but Sacramento is the kind of place where you could easily spend just 3 or 4 hours. The California State Railroad Museum is just a few blocks from the Amtrak station, and it's a very good railroad museum.

The San Francisco Bay Area is a very cool place. You could spend a week there and not see half of what the city has to offer. Sounds like this is already on your agenda.

The ride down to Los Angeles will be along the Pacific coast once you pass San Luis Obispo. I haven't taken this part of the trip (but I'm doing it in June), and I've heard that it's spectacular.

You get into Los Angeles late in the evening. LA is also a place with much to do. I've been three times, and haven't even scratched the surface. You'll definitely want to schedule some time there. I highly recommend a trip to the Griffith Observatory. It's in the Hollywood Hills above the LA Basin, and the whole city is laid out in front of you. There's an LADOT bus that operates every 35 minutes on Saturday and Sunday from the Vermont/Sunset Metro station to the Observatory.

Here's a pic I took from the top in October. Definitely a must-see if you're going to be in LA:



"Observing Los Angeles" by tracktwentynine on Flickr.

Las Vegas has not been served by Amtrak since 1997. Note, Las Vegas, NEW MEXICO is served by Amtrak, but that is not the famous city. It's just a small town with no casinos. I've never been, so I can't make any recommendations.

However, you might want to consider visiting San Diego, instead. It's a beautiful city with an amazing climate. The San Diego Zoo is world renown. Amtrak runs trains about every 90 minutes between LA and San Diego, and they also run right along the beach, making for some fantastic views along the way.

And one other thing to consider. I don't know if you're interested in visiting Canada, but Vancouver is a great city. I like it even more than Seattle. There are two Amtrak trains a day in each direction between Vancouver and Seattle, so it could be on your rail tour.

Good luck and happy travels!
 
And speaking of Vancouver, be certain you book to the correct one. There are 2, both of which are served by Amtrak from Seattle. One is Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada - the host city of the 2010 Olympics. The other is Vancouver, Washington, US - a suburb of Portland! :excl:
 
As others have said, San Francisco is much easier to do than it looks. There is a connecting bus from Emeryville Amtrak station. You can book it as part of your Amtrak trip and it connects with trains (that is, it waits if they're late). The bus stops at different locations in San Francisco, including all the areas that are most interesting for toursim (Fisherman's Wharf area etc) so you probably won't need further onward transportation from there.The bus drive across the bay bridge is quite impressive as you see the skyline coming towards you, and of course the bridge itself is worth the ride. This is probably also the fastest way into SF from any Amtrak station.

There is a rail line into SF. This is a commuter rail line that connects to Amtrak in San Jose and is called Caltrain, but's it's probably a massive detour versus the bus option.

Of course once inside San Franciso, it's a public transportation paradise. Besides the world famous cable cars that interconnect differet districts, there are different streecar lines. Most use modern streetcars but the F line is run with heritage equipment, most of it authentic PCC cars from the 1940s, each painted to represent a different city. They also have some Italian (Milano) cars from the late 1920s and cars from various other oldies. Then there is the BART subway and various trolleybuses etc. If you want to use it to explore, you can buy a passport giving you unlimited travel. Probably the best part to start from is the Fisherman's Wharf area. There are plenty of attractions and activities along the sea front and you can go on a boat tour to the former penitentiary of Alcatraz or go on a wildlife boat tour for example. The cable cars that go up to Chinatown start here as well, and you can follow the line to other districts.
 
And speaking of Vancouver, be certain you book to the correct one. There are 2, both of which are served by Amtrak from Seattle. One is Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada - the host city of the 2010 Olympics. The other is Vancouver, Washington, US - a suburb of Portland! :excl:
As dumb as it seem, some get confused by the 2 Vancourvers.

When the 1980 Winter Olympics were held in Lake Placid, NEW YORK, there were more than a few people who flew into JFK Airport (in NYC), got in a cab and asked the cab driver to take them to the Olympics. The cab drivers were more than happy to comply!

It is like 250 MILES from NYC to Lake Placid! :eek:

If you go to the Seattle train station to buy a ticket to Vancouver, there is a good chance you'll receive a ticket to Vancouver, WA instead of Vancouver, BC! (More trains per day go to the WA city.) Even if you book online or with an agent, you have to be careful. The codes are similar:

  • VAN = WA
  • VAC = BC
 
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