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I agree about the noisy people. I will observe, it has not been a problem for me on Western LD trains, only on the LSL in the East. On that train, in coach, I have been kept awake a few times, and I have complained with mixed results. I have found that getting up and moving, if there is a vacant...

I suspect you are not alone in that feeling here. But I think the people he prolifes in the article are much more typical of Amtrak ridership than AU most members.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/03/magazine/47-hour-train-ride.html?hpw I just started reading it... so I have no take on it... but htought I'd share before bedtime.

Perfectly in character for facebook though...

Make sure youa re entering the vendor's website through its listing on the AGR page. If you go directly to the vendor it can be difficult to get the points later. Not a bad idea to read AGR's policy on getting those points, if you haven't already.

I don't see any problem. Offenders? Who is offended?

Thanks Alan. I have it working now. The web-based client didn't work well on my Android browser, but the irc app seems to be working fine. Will try it again later tonight.

Does anyoneknow which irc server #amtrak is on? I have an irc app for my Android tablet and cannot seem to find the channel on any of the xervers it lists...

I think this too. I will eat most of what the diner serves, but am often wondering about additives... I am not fanatical about it but in general do not buy any groceries with any additives at all. I found what looked like the black bean burger that is served in the diners for lunch at my local...

I reemember reading in a John McPhee book (maybe it was "In Suspect Terrain") that the parts of Manhattan that have the tallest skyscrapers have the deepest and hardest bedrock, and other areas do not... I will look that up and see if I can give more specific info.

ditto

Long - long - short - long means the train is at or near a grade crossing (intersection) with a road...

Wow... looking at the article and photo spread, I am truly amazed. I had no idea. Whew........ Thanks for linking.

Coach is not a painful ordeal. Sleeper is more comfortable but if you can't afford it don't decide not to go. If you are not too old and stiff, if you are used to sleeping near others (for example, a hostel or a military barracks) you'll be fine.

That is a very good point. I recently heard a radio piece which made the point that, while we are always hearing how superior the passenger rail services in other countries are to those in the US (and they are) - the US freight rail system is by far the largest in the world.

Not what someone who eats your cooking wants to hear, probably... just sayin'.

And if time is indeed the major, or only, consideration, then there is no tough decision: fly. If you can stand it.

Sorry this quote isn't coming out right. Oh well.

I would be better for me if I had done all the timetable stuff after each trip... but I did not. I agree it would be nice to have a place to just put in the trips i've taken, and see what they come up with a mileage total. I would not mind if it's a little bit off due to routing changes on some...

A case can be made that there is not so much difference between 2x2 and 2x1 seating, with similar pitch. For LD travel, a horizontal position is a profoundly different situation, especially for those of us with sore aching joints (read: out of shape or older, or both - which describes the...