Airo - Amfleet I replacement Siemens Inter City Trainsets (ICT) (2021 - 1Q 2024)

[TransitTyrant]

Official rendering of the new ICTs, now known as the Amtrak Airo.

 

[GDRRiley]

They look quite nice, shame none will be pulled by a repainted ACS-64.

 

[Tlcooper44]

These do indeed look amazing. Definitely reminiscent of Railjets.
I do hope those seats are more comfortable than they look.

 

[Ryan]

Look, armrests!!!

 

[AmtrakBlue]

Look, armrests!!!

And space between the two seats! So now people are complaining they're too narrow. You can't have both space/arm rests, which many have wished for, and roomy seats in a limited width car.

 

[Touchdowntom9]

They look quite nice, shame none will be pulled by a repainted ACS-64.

Out of curiosity why the affinity for the ASC 64

 

[GDRRiley]

Out of curiosity why the affinity for the ASC 64

because it means some would be all electric instead of being the current dual modes. which I'd prefer we string up wires on a few state own lined than get dual modes

 

[John Bredin]

I googled "Airo" by itself to see more pics, figuring Airo is a unique-enough (if slightly illiterate-looking) spelling. It turns out Airo is a brand of cannabis smoking products (vape pens, cartridges, etc.). To be fair, it's also an HVAC company, a drone & aerospace company, and a brand of CT scanner. Nowhere on the first page of google searches was Amtrak's Airo.

I wasn't loving the name when I first saw it, I'm liking it even less now. Acela's unique, Airo ain't.

 

[Septa9739]

Overall, I say so far so good. The only hesitation I have is the seats. It doesn’t seem wise to shrink the coach seat that much, unless it’s an ADA mandate. Even though these are going to be “short” haul equipment, some of the state supported services, and for that matter, the NEC, that these will serve carry many passengers for many hours at a time, and the Amfleet seats, width aside, also look far more comfortable for that kind of duration.

 

[jis]

I wonder why Amtrak Media pulled the article with the photos that they had briefly posted on their site. Perhaps there is some sort of an announcement shindig coming up and someone jumped the gun? Or maybe one of the other users of the Airo moniker sent a cease and desist letter? I am sure we will hear more about it soon. I remember something like this happening with the first moniker "American Flyer" they came up with for what eventually came out as Acela.

 

[ascii42]

I wonder why Amtrak Media pulled the article with the photos that they had briefly posted on their site. Perhaps there is some sort of an announcement shindig coming up and someone jumped the gun? Or maybe one of the other users of the Airo moniker sent a cease and desist letter? I am sure we will hear more about it soon. I remember something like this happening with the first moniker "American Flyer" they came up with for what eventually came out as Acela.

Amtrak tweeted this yesterday.

So yeah looks like the announcement is supposed to be today and some mistake led to the page going live yesterday.

 

[jis]

I googled "Airo" by itself to see more pics, figuring Airo is a unique-enough (if slightly illiterate-looking) spelling. It turns out Airo is a brand of cannabis smoking products (vape pens, cartridges, etc.). To be fair, it's also an HVAC company, a drone & aerospace company, and a brand of CT scanner. Nowhere on the first page of google searches was Amtrak's Airo.

I wasn't loving the name when I first saw it, I'm liking it even less now. Acela's unique, Airo ain't.

Why the reference to "Air" a mode that Amtrak is supposedly competing with? Maybe "Railo" Nah!

I can see people saying I will be Airoing on the Airo as they pull out their vape pen, Oh wait, they are not allowed to do that! Ooops!

 

[John Bredin]

Why the reference to "Air" a mode that Amtrak is supposedly competing with? Maybe "Railo" Nah!

I actually like the real English word Arrow for a train. It's got railroad history and modern usage (Italy's Frecciarossa, Frecciabianca, and Frecciargento trains, or Red, White, and Silver Arrows). There's no need to resort to funky trademarkable spelling when there's not going to be another U.S. rail operator co-opting the name for their trains.

 

[John Bredin]

I actually like the real English word Arrow for a train. It's got railroad history and modern usage (Italy's Frecciarossa, Frecciabianca, and Frecciargento trains, or Red, White, and Silver Arrows). There's no need to resort to funky trademarkable spelling when there's not going to be another U.S. rail operator co-opting the name for their trains.

Would you believe I found out I was wrong only minutes after my posting? Metrolink is running a service with new DMUs and calling it the Arrow. So another U.S. rail operator is using the word Arrow.

 

[jis]

I actually like the real English word Arrow for a train. It's got railroad history and modern usage (Italy's Frecciarossa, Frecciabianca, and Frecciargento trains, or Red, White, and Silver Arrows). There's no need to resort to funky trademarkable spelling when there's not going to be another U.S. rail operator co-opting the name for their trains.

There was also the famous London - Paris Boat Train Golden Arrow/Fleche d'Or which ran upto as late as 1972

 

[frequentflyer]

Why the reference to "Air" a mode that Amtrak is supposedly competing with? Maybe "Railo" Nah!

I can see people saying I will be Airoing on the Airo as they pull out their vape pen, Oh wait, they are not allowed to do that! Ooops!

Ironic, Amfleet was designed to mimic an aircraft cabin and its replacement is called "Airo".

 

[PerRock]

The new "Amtrak Airo" trainsets:

Source:

 

[frequentflyer]

Just as the first gen Acela equipment changed the NEC perception and market share for good, this new equipment may do the same.

 

[jamess]

No recline again?

 

[jis]

Most surprisingly, AU got a preview of this in a post upthread yesterday!

The new "Amtrak Airo" trainsets:

Source:

 

[Mailliw]

I wish Amtrak would put mockups on public display at DC Union Station and Penn Station.

 

[user 14106]

New Amtrak Cascades trains in 2026 Cascades version.

 

[TransitTyrant]

Seems like from the renderings that the Midwest Ventures are the plainest and have the worst seats out of the bunch.

 

[AmtrakBlue]

New Amtrak Cascades trains in 2026 Cascades version.

You beat me to it.

 

[Mailliw]

New Amtrak Cascades trains in 2026 Cascades version.

I like the cafe car. Will they have seating?