Auto Train service disruption 5/29/13

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According to some posts on Facebook, the northbound Auto Train has been having brake issues on its auto carriers, and may not have arrived in Lorton yet (12+ hours late). The southbound is thus in a service disruption, and is scheduled to depart Lorton ca. 2am ET.

they ordered subway for everyone as well as cheese, cracker and.veggie trays....water...and the mini wine tasting....
 
If they can turn the equipment that fast (strip it, clean it, remake it and restock it) in time for an 0200 hours departure, then the servicing, cleaning, and commissary crews deserve some valuable recognition from their managers and from above, as well.
 
Looks like a 6:30pm-ish arrival for Southbound (05/29). meaning northbound (05/30) will be pretty delayed as well. i wonder how long this knock on effect will go for?
 
They may end up annulling it for a day to get back on track, rather than run late for the week or so it'll take to walk the schedule back to on time. With only 2 sets, there's not a lot else to do.
 
They may end up annulling it for a day to get back on track, rather than run late for the week or so it'll take to walk the schedule back to on time. With only 2 sets, there's not a lot else to do.
It looks like 52(30) is operating, which would have been be the trip, other than 53(30), to annul to get the sets back in sync quickly. Load factors here at the start of summer travel season may be high enough that Amtk didn't want to annul any trips at the last minute. You're right, it will take several days of pushing hard to get the schedule back to normal.
 
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According to some posts on Facebook, the northbound Auto Train has been having brake issues on its auto carriers, and may not have arrived in Lorton yet (12+ hours late). The southbound is thus in a service disruption, and is scheduled to depart Lorton ca. 2am ET.

they ordered subway for everyone as well as cheese, cracker and.veggie trays....water...and the mini wine tasting....
You would have to believe that passengers on the delayed northbound had Amtrak's famous (infamous?) Mystery Stew for lunch and dinner? I wonder though if hotel accommodations were provided to passengers as well for the very late train. It is conceivable that if the train was 12 hours late some unlucky passengers would not receive their vehicle until around 11:00 PM. That could be a long drive home for some at an ungodly hour.
 
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Agreed, annulling is probably the less desirable option since the load factors north are so heavy. At least they have a vague idea of how bad the delays will be and can let people know ahead of time.

i'll be curious to see how fast they can turn the train today in SFA. Auto train usually has a good number of extra car carriers, so they might be able to start loading a number of the cars on to the extras before the 6pm arrival.

That way only the passenger cars need to be cleaned - rather than doing that in addition to the whole unloading prior to the loading of all the cars process.

Would be an interesting operation to watch.
 
When 52 & 53 are so far out of their time slots, is there any chance that they'll travel via the "S-Line"? Although it's longer, if things are so congested over on the "A-Line", sometimes it makes sense. I did hear this happen on the scanner once, but it's been nearly 10 years since then, I guess.

jb
 
When 52 & 53 are so far out of their time slots, is there any chance that they'll travel via the "S-Line"? Although it's longer, if things are so congested over on the "A-Line", sometimes it makes sense. I did hear this happen on the scanner once, but it's been nearly 10 years since then, I guess.
jb
It's likely that not all the A-T regular crews are qualified over the S-Line since they almost never operate over there. Plus, the additional mileage via Selma-Raleigh-Columbia would cut into any possible time savings. Your memory is correct, though, the A-T has rerouted via Raleigh before, including one REALLY rare instance where 53 detoured onto the NS at Wilson (yes, Wilson) due to a mainline derailment in the Selma-Smithfield area. There's some rare mileage for you!
 
The S-line to my knowledge has a few sections of track where max speed is only 59 MPH. So going that way is unlikely to help get back on track at all.
 
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I'm just wondering, but could they annul the train in only one direction for a day to allow them to basically dump passengers, grab supplies for the crew, and then bolt right back out of the station? I know I'm making it sound faster than it is, but I'd think they could do such a turn pretty quickly.
 
That was covered by Ryan, Cliff.

That's at least in my eyes the only way to get the train back to a normal schedule.

52 Northbound is listed as a SD, Possibly being annulled? 53 arrived into SFA at 635pm. Made up about an hour.
 
That was covered by Ryan, Cliff.
That's at least in my eyes the only way to get the train back to a normal schedule.

52 Northbound is listed as a SD, Possibly being annulled? 53 arrived into SFA at 635pm. Made up about an hour.
I saw him mention that, but I read "annul for a day" as involving both trains (52/53). I was wondering if they could just pick the least-sold trains in the next few days and zap one of the directions a few days out instead of both.
 
That's what I was thinking (both trains for a day).

If you've got heavy loads one way, I didn't consider just annulling one direction twice to get back on track. Not sure if that'll work.

Hopefully CSX will work with them to get the train back on target - if everything goes perfectly, they should be able to pick up an hour or two every day.
 
52(30) probably shows as a SD due to an estimated departure from SFA of 2300(30). 53(29) made up about an hour enroute, so if the late set keeps getting turned quickly and CSX pushes the trains, they could be close to being back on schedule by Monday, IMO. The usual lighter intermodal traffic on the A-Line on the weekends will help, too.

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52(30) looks to arrive around 3:30pm today in Lorton. Looks like they're making up about 3 hours a day. 53(29) arrived around 6:30pm in Sanford yesterday so if they keep this up all should be back to normal pretty soon.

Kudos to the Auto Train team and CSX (so far).
 
I'd say they will be back to normal by Monday.

During all of this discussion about the SD's does anyone know if passengers are still required to show by 3PM?? That would be a shame if they did.
 
Well looking at the times involved, The train is making up an hour at each end. There's no simple solution to make up 12 hours. The only feasible solution would to be annul the train in each direction. To help the sets and the crews relax and take a break.
 
Amtrak iPhone app says #53 DID INDEED arrive SFA today at 13:30 (4 hours late), and departure of 52 northbound estimated for 17:30 (90 minutes late). So perhaps they will be caught up again by Monday, God willing and the creek don't rise.
 
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Well looking at the times involved, The train is making up an hour at each end. There's no simple solution to make up 12 hours. The only feasible solution would to be annul the train in each direction. To help the sets and the crews relax and take a break.
Not so relaxing for passengers, however.
 
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