Bi-level Long Distance (LD) fleet replacement RFP discussion H2 2024

[thefirewarde]

Much like the Viewliner II options?

The ones still having teething and support issues? We definitely want more of that.

I think depending on timelines, Amtrak may need to work in parallel on Phase Four and Phase One of this procurement - getting in line right behind VIA for two routes worth of single level equipment is a good hedge against delays with the new bilevels and Viewliner II continued problems. Omit the domes if that's a sticking point but at least get coaches, sleepers, and diners.

 

[Cal]

We also need to keep a close watch on seat design because the Ventures are bad. Yes, I know that should be self evident in a long distance car, but we’ve learned to take nothing for granted

Have you seen Amtrak's own designs? It has very specific measurements of coach seats which tells us at least something, even though it probably won't be the final product.

 

[Tom C]

on the long distance coaches they’re talking about a “hybrid” recline. The seat bottom would come forward like on the Ventures but the seat back would also go back in a true recline a certain amount. The amount of true recline in the premium seats would be greater.

Even Amtrak’s Airos won’t be like the state owned Ventures. If you look at the concept art it appears the Airo seats are going to be the same or at least a similar type to Brightline’s. Still doesn’t have a true recline in the seat back but the seat itself is more comfortable than the state owned Ventures.