Could Siemens Viaggio/Ventures be the next sleeper car?

[PinkGloryBrony22]

Recently Amtrak has picked Siemens as the Preferred bidder for new intercity rolling stock. I was thinking, what could be the next sleeper car if it was built by Siemens. I was thinking that on the east coast it would be the single level Viaggio set and on the west coast it would be the bi-level Viaggio set. I would love to hear other ideas.

Siemens Viaggio
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Siemens Viaggio Twin(Bi-level)
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Recently Amtrak has picked Siemens as the Preferred bidder for new intercity rolling stock. I was thinking, what could be the next sleeper car if it was built by Siemens. I was thinking that on the east coast it would be the single level Viaggio set and on the west coast it would be the bi-level Viaggio set. I would love to hear other ideas.

Siemens Viaggio
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Siemens Viaggio Twin(Bi-level)
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Yeah, but the new Double-Decker Sleepers would have to be lowered slightly to be the same height as the Bombardier Multilevel Cars used by NJT or The Kawasaki C3 used by LIRR so that it can be used in low-clearance areas such as in NYC in Penn Station. Also, it would have to have the same door configurations as Cal-Train's Stadler KISS EMUs, to be compatible with both High and Low platforms on all of Amtrak's network. It won't just replace the Superliners used on Western LD Amtrak Trains, but also the Sleeper/Dining Viewliners and Coach Amfleet IIs (the Amfleet Is are already being replaced with the Single-Deck Venture cars). So if that were to happen, all Amtrak Long-Distance trains would be Bi-Level, and Intercity Trains would be Single-Level. The Long-Distance Cars could also be equipped with TVs/Entertainment Screens in the Romette/Suite (A first for Amtrak) to entertain passengers when there nothing is interesting to look at out the window, and also outdoor POV cameras on each Bi-Level Car with Night Vision, so each passenger can see the view outside the train better at night as the train rolls along. It could also come equipped with LED mood lighting in each Romette/Suite (controlled with the entertainment screens), to better pamper passengers during the long train long trip. I could call the new Long Distance cars, the Siemens Voyager, based on the Viaggio/Venture design. And unlike the former Superliners, access to the next car will be accessed at the Mid-Level section of the Car, instead of at the top as seen with the Superliners. And if the Viewliners would be phased out for passenger use, they could gut out the interiors and convert them into Baggage/Crew Dormitory Cars, since they are not old enough to be completely retired. The Voyayer cars would come in 4 variants, a Coach Car, a Dining/Cafe Car, a Sleeper Car, and a Sightseer Lounge Car.

 

[Mailliw]

If access between cars is located on the mezzanine level how are wheelchair users supposed to move between cars while the train is moving? In the examples Amtrak put out to demonstrate the accessible core trainset model passage was kept on the upper level and all the accessible spaces were upstairs. That means lifts only need to be used during boarding and disembarking, it also eliminates the need for every car to have a lift in order to be accessible.

 

[PinkGloryBrony22]

Recently Amtrak has picked Siemens as the Preferred bidder for new intercity rolling stock. I was thinking, what could be the next sleeper car if it was built by Siemens. I was thinking that on the east coast it would be the single level Viaggio set and on the west coast it would be the bi-level Viaggio set. I would love to hear other ideas.

Siemens Viaggio
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Siemens Viaggio Twin(Bi-level)
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I think Amtrak should modify the design of the Twin Viaggio cars and add doors on both the lower and mid-level sections to be compatible with both High and Low platforms throughout the Amtrak system, like with Caltrain's Stadler Kiss EMUs in San Francisco. They should also lower the height slightly to meet compatible clearances in NYC Tunnels and underground stations. It should be called the Siemens Voyager. It won't just replace the Superliners used on Western LD Amtrak Trains, but also the Sleeper/Dining Viewliners and Coach Amfleet IIs (the Amfleet Is are already being replaced with the Single-Deck Venture cars). So if that were to happen, all Amtrak Long-Distance trains would be Bi-Level, and Intercity Trains would be Single-Level. The new Long-Distance Cars could also be some of the most technologically advanced trains in North America, equipped with TVs/Entertainment Screens in the Romette/Suite (A first for Amtrak) to entertain passengers when nothing is interesting to look at out the window, and also outdoor POV cameras on each Bi-Level Car with Night Vision, so each passenger can see the view outside the train better at night as the train rolls along. It could also come equipped with LED mood lighting in each Romette/Suite (controlled with the entertainment screens), to better pamper passengers during the long train long trip. And unlike the former Superliners, access to the next car will be accessed at the Mid-Level section of the Car, instead of at the top as seen with the Superliners. And if the Viewliners would be phased out for passenger use, they could gut out the interiors and convert them into Baggage/Crew Dormitory Cars, since they are not old enough to be completely retired. The Voyayer cars would come in 4 variants, a Coach Car, a Dining/Cafe Car, a Sleeper Car, and a Sightseer Lounge Car.
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[JermyZP]

I wrote that comment before Amtrak released more information on the bi-level replacement procurement. I still think that on the east coast lines it should be single level viaggio sleeper cars but have a wheelchair lift in the door instead of in a shed on the platform.

 

[jis]

I wrote that comment before Amtrak released more information on the bi-level replacement procurement. I still think that on the east coast lines it should be single level viaggio sleeper cars but have a wheelchair lift in the door instead of in a shed on the platform.

The Siemens Venture cars are fitted with deployable wheelchair lifts at select doors. All that is needed is furnishing them with Sleeper Rooms/Roomettes instead of Coach seats.

 

[PinkGloryBrony22]

I wrote that comment before Amtrak released more information on the bi-level replacement procurement. I still think that on the east coast lines it should be single level viaggio sleeper cars but have a wheelchair lift in the door instead of in a shed on the platform.

Oops, accidentally double commented LOL