Effect of rising gas prices on Amtrak ridership in summer of '22

[Willbridge]

Another look at Amtrak in the low capacity - high demand era. This for Sunday, June 19th, as of Saturday evening, June 18th.

Here's the line-up for the Cascades corridor from PDX to SEA:

0800 FB $28
0820 AT SO/SO
0950 GL $38
1005 FB $42
1200 AT SO/SO
1500 FB $50
1556 AT SO/SO/$249
1830 FB $32
1925 AT $65/$85
1950 GL $37

And here's PDX to SPK:

0800 FB $52 via Seattle
0820 AT SO/SO/SO chng at Seattle
0950 GL $89 chng at Stanfield
1645 AT $76/--/$183

AT = Amtrak Coach/Business/Sleeper, FB = Flixbus includes service charge rounded, GL = Greyhound Lines. SO = Sold Out.

In following this it makes one wonder what rail ridership would be like if there was more capacity.

Another look at Amtrak in the low capacity - high demand era. This for Sunday, June 26th, as of Saturday evening, June 25th.

Here's the line-up for the Cascades corridor from PDX to SEA:

0800 FB SO
0820 AT SO/SO
0950 GL $38
1005 FB $52
1200 AT SO/SO
1500 FB $52
1556 AT SO/SO/$473
1830 FB $52
1925 AT SO/SO
1950 GL $37

And here's PDX to SPK:

0800 FB SO via Seattle (Or wait for $50 on Monday.)
0820 AT SO/SO/SO chng at Seattle (Or wait for $192 on Monday.)
0950 GL SO chng at Stanfield (Or wait for $77 on Monday.)
1645 AT $127/--/$719 (Or wait for $58 on Monday.)

AT = Amtrak Coach/Business/Sleeper, FB = Flixbus includes service charge rounded, GL = Greyhound Lines. SO = Sold Out.

The open Flixbus trips all showed "Almost full". Amtrak Train 28 showed "90%" occupancy PDX>SPK. Amtrak northbound to Seattle from Portland is the highest occupancy that I've seen in the reservation era. The previous unreserved trains permitted standees and extra cars were usually available.

 

[zetharion]

So much potential revenue being missed out on.

 

[west point]

When will enough Horizon cars be freeded up to ship some to the PNW? Would expect a miniumof 3 will be needed to add to a RT .

 

[Willbridge]

Here's a look at PDX>SEA and PDX>SPK with the easing of gas prices, and before we get to the Labor Day weekend. This for Sunday, August 21, 2022.

Here's the PDX to SEA line-up as of Wednesday night:

0800 FB $44
0820 AT SO/SO
0950 GL $27
1005 FB $44
1200 AT SO/SO
1230 FB $31
1500 FB $37
1556 AT SO/SO/$153
1830 FB $37
1925 AT $35/$75
1950 GL $27

And here's PDX to SPK:

0800 FB $61 via Seattle
0820 AT SO/SO/SO chng at Seattle
0950 GL $69 chng at Stanfield
1645 AT $58/--/$183

AT = Amtrak Coach/Business/Sleeper, FB = Flixbus includes service charge rounded, GL = Greyhound Lines. SO = Sold Out.

 

[Willbridge]

Here's a look at PDX>SEA and PDX>SPK with the easing of gas prices, and now after the Labor Day weekend and the return to schools. This for Sunday, August 21, 2022 and then for Sunday, October 2, 2022..

Here's the PDX to SEA line-up as of Wednesday night:

0800 FB $44>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$34
0820 AT SO/SO>>>>>>>>>>>>SO/SO
0950 GL $27>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$26
1005 FB $44>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$39
1200 AT SO/SO>>>>>>>>>>>>SO/SO
1230 FB $31>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$39
1500 FB $37>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$49
1556 AT SO/SO/$153>>>>>>>>SO/SO/$267
1830 FB $37>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$49
1925 AT $35/$75>>>>>>>>>>>$66/SO
1950 GL $27>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$27

And here's PDX to SPK:

0800 FB $61 via Seattle>>>>>>>>>$52
0820 AT SO/SO/SO chng at Seattle>>SO/SO/SO
0950 GL $69 chng at Stanfield>>>>>$72
1645 AT $58/--/$183>>>>>>>>>>>$58/--/$690

AT = Amtrak Coach/Business/Sleeper, FB = Flixbus includes service charge rounded, GL = Greyhound Lines. SO = Sold Out.

Note: SEA<>VAC reservations for bus and rail show a stampede across the "reopened" border. However, there is no through PDX<>VAC train as of yet. The 0820, 1200, and 1556 train departures from PDX enjoy bus connections in SEA to VAC.

 

[Bob Dylan]

Here's a look at PDX>SEA and PDX>SPK with the easing of gas prices, and now after the Labor Day weekend and the return to schools. This for Sunday, August 21, 2022 and then for Sunday, October 2, 2022..

Here's the PDX to SEA line-up as of Wednesday night:

0800 FB $44>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$34
0820 AT SO/SO>>>>>>>>>>>>SO/SO
0950 GL $27>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$26
1005 FB $44>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$39
1200 AT SO/SO>>>>>>>>>>>>SO/SO
1230 FB $31>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$39
1500 FB $37>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$49
1556 AT SO/SO/$153>>>>>>>>SO/SO/$267
1830 FB $37>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$49
1925 AT $35/$75>>>>>>>>>>>$66/SO
1950 GL $27>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$27

And here's PDX to SPK:

0800 FB $61 via Seattle>>>>>>>>>$52
0820 AT SO/SO/SO chng at Seattle>>SO/SO/SO
0950 GL $69 chng at Stanfield>>>>>$72
1645 AT $58/--/$183>>>>>>>>>>>$58/--/$690

AT = Amtrak Coach/Business/Sleeper, FB = Flixbus includes service charge rounded, GL = Greyhound Lines. SO = Sold Out.

Note: SEA<>VAC reservations for bus and rail show a stampede across the "reopened" border. However, there is no through PDX<>VAC train as of yet. The 0820, 1200, and 1556 train departures from PDX enjoy bus connections in SEA to VAC.

Those Amtrak prices are starting to resemble the NEC Fares! Supply can't keep up with demand!

 

[Willbridge]

Here's a look at PDX>SEA and PDX>SPK as our frenemies adjust oil prices, and now with seasonal promotions coming into play, despite the already high demand and capacity limits. This for Sunday, August 21, 2022, and then for Sunday, October 2, 2022, and now for Sunday, October 16.

Here's the PDX to SEA line-up as of Wednesday night:

0800 FB $44>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$34>>>>>>>>>>>$54
0820 AT SO/SO>>>>>>>>>>>>SO/SO>>>>>>>>>SO/SO
0950 GL $27>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$26>>>>>>>>>>>$35
1005 FB $44>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$39>>>>>>>>>>>$44
1200 AT SO/SO>>>>>>>>>>>>SO/SO>>>>>>>>>SO/SO
1230 FB $31>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$39>>>>>>>>>>>$49
1500 FB $37>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$49>>>>>>>>>>>$44
1556 AT SO/SO/$153>>>>>>>>SO/SO/$267>>>>>>SO/SO/$293
1830 FB $37>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$49>>>>>>>>>>>$54
1925 AT $35/$75>>>>>>>>>>>$66/SO>>>>>>>>>SO/SO
1950 GL $27>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$27>>>>>>>>>>>$37

And here's PDX to SPK:
0800 FB $61 via Seattle>>>>>>>>>$52>>>>>>>>>$97
0820 AT SO/SO/SO chng at Seattle>>SO/SO/SO>>>>SO/SO/SO
0950 GL $69 chng at Stanfield>>>>>$72>>>>>>>>>$76
1645 AT $58/--/$183>>>>>>>>>>>$58/--/$690>>>$58/--/$293

AT = Amtrak Coach/Business/Sleeper, FB = Flixbus includes service charge rounded, GL = Greyhound Lines. SO = Sold Out.

Note: There is no through PDX<>VAC train as of yet. The 0820, 1200, and 1556 train departures from PDX enjoy bus connections in SEA to VAC.

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