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Is anyone aware of the issues holding up the introduction of the business and cafe cars?
The Business cars are sitting in the yard outside Union Station. The cafe cars have yet to be delivered.I don't believe they've been built and/or delivered yet.
Just seems really odd they are not in service presuming all boarding issues have been cleared up.The Business cars are sitting in the yard outside Union Station. The cafe cars have yet to be delivered.
Can’t confirm but there are rumors they’re waiting for the cafe cars. The setup is different, instead it business class/cafe cars they’re business and coach class cars.Just seems really odd they are not in service presuming all boarding issues have been cleared up.
The only thing regarding the IL Rail Needs Assessment is that projects already funded and supposedly in planning like Rockford, Moline, and CN improvements were declined? Maybe that’s why? Also ordering more Ventures is a guarantee if they get service expansions and more round trips on routes like the Wolverine and Lincoln Service. The locomotives will also require rehabs wether the IL Needs Assessment recommends it or not.A side note on the Venture cars...I have been digging into the Illinois Rail Needs Assessment Report, that was released in July, but I just discovered in the last week. While compiling the report, IDOT, in meetings with stakeholders and during the public comment period, asked what rail projects and improvements each person or entity would like to see addressed by IDOT.
IDOT's own Office of Intermodal Project Implementation mentioned that they would like to order 41 more Venture cars to fully replace all legacy cars within the Midwest fleet. It did not survive the filtering process, but it shows they might be happy enough with the Ventures that they want a bunch more.
The Office of Intermodal Project Implementation also asked that 33 Siemens Charger locomotives be retrofitted with shunt enhancement devices "to increase the reliability of passenger trains activating warning devices at highway-rail grade crossings." Is that the solution arrived at by IDOT, Amtrak, and CN regarding the shunting problems on Illini/Saluki? Anyone know?
They also want 17 Venture cars to be fitted with audio induction loops to assist those who are hard of hearing, as well as looking for funding to restripe all Midwest Chargers. The striping was originally done to match the Nippon-Sharyo bi-levels that never materialized, so now they want the Chargers to match the Ventures.
Unrelated, but IDOT (as mentioned in the CorridorID thread) estimates the cost of full build out of 110MPH CHI-STL at somewhere between $5-7 Billion, and upgrading to 220MPH service would be $12-15 Billion. No idea whether that would be on top of the 5-7 Billion or not.
None of the projects made the final cut, but we get a peek into what's being discussed, anyway.
interesting California was looking at 4 more 7 car sets but those seem almost certainly not happening given our options for FLIRTs.IDOT's own Office of Intermodal Project Implementation mentioned that they would like to order 41 more Venture cars to fully replace all legacy cars within the Midwest fleet. It did not survive the filtering process, but it shows they might be happy enough with the Ventures that they want a bunch more.
Agreed that since Quad Cities/Rockford service and IC mainline improvements have secured funding is the likely reason they did not make the cut.The only thing regarding the IL Rail Needs Assessment is that projects already funded and supposedly in planning like Rockford, Moline, and CN improvements were declined? Maybe that’s why? Also ordering more Ventures is a guarantee if they get service expansions and more round trips on routes like the Wolverine and Lincoln Service. The locomotives will also require rehabs wether the IL Needs Assessment recommends it or not.
Amtrak recently was testing shunts on the CN line and they could be installed on locomotives within the next few months. The 2nd round trip likely won’t return until then.
No, likely after the cab cars are delivered.I asked this question earlier. Does anyone know when the venture cars will operate on the Milwaukee line?
I thought it was Wisconsin added onto the order with 6 coaches and 3 cab cars.Aren't the cars for the Hiawatha part of a separate order? They're being bought by Wisconsin, not Illinois, Michigan and Missouri.
I asked this question earlier. Does anyone know when the venture cars will operate on the Milwaukee line?
For what it's worth the Hiawatha finally appears to be getting a 5th coach car during the week. Not sure if they have stopped at five for now or if they have gone back to (pre-COVID) 6 coaches. But given so many trains sold out or > 90% over the past several months the added capacity is welcome.
I've not seen anything other than Horizon or Amfleet so no word on Venture, but perhaps their presence is at least allowing more capacity again on CHI-MKE.
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