TransitTyrant
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Courtesy of Facebook, Jim PRR fan, four Ventures on 51 north to Chicago from Beechgrove. Also a couple of Superliner Sleepers.
Midwest Venture introduction
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Hmm - wonder if these Ventures are en route to be used on the consist for the resuming 350/355 Wolverine. As for the sleepers, they could use some more on the western trains - wonder if some may get a second sleeper back.
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Some are slated to get one additional Sleeper as we approach Thanksgiving.
For some reason it is so offputting to see the venture cars paired with such a mishmash of equipment. I get that they dont have unlimited funding, but cant we get a unified looking train? The sleepers look like they are from WW2 and the baggage cars are even worse
its just an equipment move
amtrak phase III doesn't match well with the midwest
Well they could've chosen to paint the VII cars to match the Phase 4/5 scheme but they didn't.
Venture cars should eventually only be paired with other ventures and SC-44's in service so that's not an issue.
Why are the Venture cars so brightly lit? Is there any way for the conductor to dim the lights - especially in the evening or at night?
PerRock
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So, why are they sitting anywhere, and not being put into service?
west point
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What has happened to the proposal gor Amtrak to acquire the yard south of the river bridge??
Believe it is part of the Chicago Access program (or whatever the name is) that Amtrak is seeking funding for.
they had a list of issues that were being fixed before they were put into service
Why didn't they deadhead them back to Sacramento and tell allmighty Siemens to fix their toys, especially if Beech Grove or Chicago would not ?
Who said Beech Grove wouldn't fix them? And what makes you think Siemens wasn't involved in resolving any issues?
Siemens doesn't have yard space to store a bunch of coaches and moving all the cars back to the west coast would be expensive compared to sending them just a bit south to beach grove.
Siemens is going to need to grow their factory for the amtrak order, I have no idea how they are going to do VIA without more space
They have been sitting there so long, might as well have sent them back and get them fixed.
west point
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Siemens is in the slow process of acquiring more land adjaecent to present facility. Even have a temporar permit to store some of the unfinished cars. But have not gotten final rezoning.
The deliverables, and any remediation for defects, would be covered by the contract Siemens signed with the states that acquired the cars, and with Amtrak who agreed to operate and maintain them.
Stuff like that would normally be handled (as it was in this case) someplace other than the site where they were manufactured.
These aren’t simple consumer goods where you just take it back to the store.
Business class cars have been delivered, but the holdup is with the cafe cars. I cannot remember when we're expecting those to come in.
Aren't the business class and cafe cars supposed to be married pairs, but not with each other, but each to a coach?
It is kind of complex. Some are individual but some are meant to be married pairs. I have a few videos of business class cars sitting in the Chicago yard, but I couldn't tell you if any were married pairs or not.
Venture cars can be converted from married to single units or to a trainset, as I understand it 2 things change the doors between cars to an open gangway and the replacement of couples with a fixed pin.
Mailliw
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Are the business class cars full coaches? I thought they were going to be half business/ half economy coaches married to economy coaches?
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