When did you take your trip? When I rode the Pennsy back in 2012, we sat in a regular Amfleet I coach marked "Business Class." I miss the 2-1 seating, but since my trains were full in BC, perhaps Amtrak felt it needed to add extra capacity on this route.When I rode the Pennsylvanian it still had the half cafe/half business class car with the 2-1 leather seating. That made business class more worthwhile, imo. I wish the full business class cars had the 2-1 leather seats.
I believe the seat pitch should be about the same for the business class Amfleet I and the Amfleet II coaches. (Amfleet I business class car seats 60, Amfleet II coach seats 59 as I recall.) One advantage of the Amfleet II coaches, however, is the larger window size.
About $27 of a difference. :giggle:How much of a difference is there between coach and business class on the Pennsylvanian?
I don't have a Roster or know the Exact Number of these Cars but the Routes I've Booked in the Past Couple of Years in Biz Class that had them include:Anyone know how many of the 2x1 Faux Leather BC/Cafe cars exist and what lines they are on? I hear they get rotated around, but I don't think that's really the case. I'm sure the higher demand trains probably get the Amfleet I's with Amfleet II seat pitch and the low demand routes get the lower capacity seating...
Does the Vermonter still have such?I don't have a Roster or know the Exact Number of these Cars but the Routes I've Booked in the Past Couple of Years in Biz Class that had them include:
#66-#67 on the NEC
Wolverines
Missouri River Runner/Lincoln Services
The Maple Leaf
Surfliners (Single Level Consist)
:blush: Opps, The Vermonter and The Downeaster also!! :hi:Does the Vermonter still have such?I don't have a Roster or know the Exact Number of these Cars but the Routes I've Booked in the Past Couple of Years in Biz Class that had them include:
#66-#67 on the NEC
Wolverines
Missouri River Runner/Lincoln Services
The Maple Leaf
Surfliners (Single Level Consist)
If there were 11 there wouldn't be enough on the system. The correct number is 44.They used to be on the Palmetto, but I guess demand increased, so they swapped it out for the Amfleet.
It looks like, according to OTOL, that there are 11 of these cars in service. Apparently they are called Club-Dinette conversions. On the exterior, they are labled Cafe on one end and BusinessClass on the other.
You're both wrong individually! However, together you are both correct.If there were 11 there wouldn't be enough on the system. The correct number is 44.They used to be on the Palmetto, but I guess demand increased, so they swapped it out for the Amfleet.
It looks like, according to OTOL, that there are 11 of these cars in service. Apparently they are called Club-Dinette conversions. On the exterior, they are labled Cafe on one end and BusinessClass on the other.
Do the 11 Horizon cars also have the 2-1 faux-leather la-z-boy seating?There are 44 Amfleet Club-Dinettes (which is indeed the name for the half cafe, half BC with the faux-leather seats) and there are 11 Horizon Club-Dinettes for a total of 55 in the fleet.
I've heard reports that a few of the cars have a cloth cover, instead of the faux-leather, but I've not seen any. Not that I've been in all that many of the cars.Do the 11 Horizon cars also have the 2-1 faux-leather la-z-boy seating?There are 44 Amfleet Club-Dinettes (which is indeed the name for the half cafe, half BC with the faux-leather seats) and there are 11 Horizon Club-Dinettes for a total of 55 in the fleet.
I was on the Pennsylvanian recently and they do have a leg rest in those better coaches.Very interesting information on the various cars throughout the Amtrak system.
It sounds like the consensus on my original question is not to pay extra for business class on the Pennsylvanian. I just need to be sure to get a seat in one of the Amfleet II coaches. These seats are comparable, and might have slightly more leg room. They just do not have the leg rest.
OK. That makes it even a better deal in coach.I was on the Pennsylvanian recently and they do have a leg rest in those better coaches.
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