Status of Surfliner Service between Oceanside and Irvine

[Paul CHI]

Example

 

[GDRRiley]

Now they say December. Move the tracks or build a tunnel!

not surprised its been delayed, there is no where to move the tracks to and a tunnel is 6-8 years out at the soonest with the likely time frame of 14-16 years

 

[hmy1]

Major Work Begins to Stabilize Coastal Tracks with Service to Restart in February

If it's true that major work did not start until this month, what did they do the entire month of October? This is a heavy commuter corridor and has been closed since 9/30. New projected re-opening is February.

 

[Alice]

Major Work Begins to Stabilize Coastal Tracks with Service to Restart in February

If it's true that major work did not start until this month, what did they do the entire month of October? This is a heavy commuter corridor and has been closed since 9/30. New projected re-opening is February.

I don't know about the timeline, but this got my attention: "The track moved as much as 28 inches between September 2021 and September 2022 ..." And in the next paragraph: "... but freight trains continue to run on the tracks."

 

[NES28]

An update - currently all Amtrak service south of Irvine is cancelled, but they expect to have San Diego-Oceanside trains and an Oceanside-Irvine bus bridge by 10/3:

Would an alternative to a tunnel be to move the railroad to the the I-5 alignment (probably with a major portion on structure)? In combination with the Del Mar tunnel this would make most of the LA-SD route double-track, unlocking a lot of capacity.

 

[GDRRiley]

Major Work Begins to Stabilize Coastal Tracks with Service to Restart in February

If it's true that major work did not start until this month, what did they do the entire month of October? This is a heavy commuter corridor and has been closed since 9/30. New projected re-opening is February.

its OCTA who was running this project they aren't quick.
If this was under caltrans and they treated this line like how they treat a damaged freeway it already would have been fixed.

The state really needs to take control of dispatch, upkeep and repairs/upgrades of track instead of doing it at the county or transit agency level that.

Spoiler: What I'd really like the state to do

Yes this is created a railroad for local freight

I don't know about the timeline, but this got my attention: "The track moved as much as 28 inches between September 2021 and September 2022 ..." And in the next paragraph: "... but freight trains continue to run on the tracks."

Yes BNSF has contuined to run a limited amount of freight. in this case because its the hill above sliding down its highly unlikely the strucutre underneth the track will be compromised by them running 1-2 slow freights a day over it.

Would an alternative to a tunnel be to move the railroad to the the I-5 alignment (probably with a major portion on structure)? In combination with the Del Mar tunnel this would make most of the LA-SD route double-track, unlocking a lot of capacity.

The tunnel under I-5 is the only way to keep grades down. Yep double tracking those 2 sections will help a lot. Now if only we could get a bunch of california under wire so we didn't need to worry about diesel trains and all their ventilation requirements

 

[TinCan782]

Would an alternative to a tunnel be to move the railroad to the the I-5 alignment (probably with a major portion on structure)? In combination with the Del Mar tunnel this would make most of the LA-SD route double-track, unlocking a lot of capacity.

A tunnel, as an option, has been has been on the table for some time.

 

[MIrailfan]

California has a budget surplus they should invest it in upgrades or a tunnel.

 

[GDRRiley]

California has a budget surplus they should invest it in upgrades or a tunnel.

I wish we had spent more of the money on transit but instead we sent lots of it back to taxpayers

 

[IanDBeacon]

Major Work Begins to Stabilize Coastal Tracks with Service to Restart in February

If it's true that major work did not start until this month, what did they do the entire month of October? This is a heavy commuter corridor and has been closed since 9/30. New projected re-opening is February.

Article did mention a possible earlier reopen by the half-way point.

 

[MIrailfan]

any updates? all i see is this Travel Advisories | Pacific Surfliner

 

[TinCan782]

any updates? all i see is this Travel Advisories | Pacific Surfliner

Look at the link in the post just before yours.
Also (Oct 29):
"While the project timeline calls for the work to fully wrap up by mid-January, officials hope to be able to resume train service return by mid-December. However, transit officials caution, it's possible unforeseen circumstances could delay the track reopening until the project is entirely complete."
https://thepointsguy.com/news/pacific-surfliner-track-work/

 

[TinCan782]

California’s coastal Amtrak service still down for Thanksgiving holiday (KPBS Public Media Nov 25, 2022)
"Passenger rail service from San Diego to places north of San Clemente has still not been restored. KPBS Reporter Thomas Fudge says the threat of a bluff collapse nearly two months ago put a stop to the train travel."

 

[TinCan782]

Passenger services remain suspended; repair work could continue through February
BY PHIL DIEHL
NOV. 28, 2022 5:59 PM PT
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.co...e-railroad-slope-to-continue-through-february

 

[Widfara]

My pastor and family are taking the Texas Eagle to LA, and then the Surfliner on to San Diego. Because of the bustitution, checked baggage is not available all the way to San Diego. They will have to get their bags in LA, and take them on the train and bus themselves.
Five people are travelling, in 2 roomettes and a bedroom on the Eagle, with two suitcases each. Plus handbags.
Questions:
1. Do the Surfliners have ample baggage racks near the doors?
2. Do the busses put bags under like Greyhound/Trailways used to do?

 

[Bob Dylan]

My pastor and family are taking the Texas Eagle to LA, and then the Surfliner on to San Diego. Because of the bustitution, checked baggage is not available all the way to San Diego. They will have to get their bags in LA, and take them on the train and bus themselves.
Five people are travelling, in 2 roomettes and a bedroom on the Eagle, with two suitcases each. Plus handbags.
Questions:
1. Do the Surfliners have ample baggage racks near the doors?
2. Do the busses put bags under like Greyhound/Trailways used to do?

Yes to Both questions!( The Surfliners with Bi-Level Seating Reserve the Downstairs Level for ADA Passengers, but if youre in Biz Class its a tad more Comfortable and not as crowded as the Coaches)

Note that @ the Oceanside Station you have to ride an Elevator and cross the Tracks on a Bridge to get to the Northbound Tracks to LAX.

The Station is very busy with lots of Buses coming and going, and the signage isn't the best.Id advise them to ask the Conductor or Station staff about directions etc.

 

[IanDBeacon]

https://www.latimes.com/california/...ilroad-landslide-spot-rain-causes-no-movementHopefully service can resume sooner than later, I am flying out to San Diego on 2/5 and taking the Surfliner up to ANA that same day.

 

[Bob Dylan]

https://www.latimes.com/california/...ilroad-landslide-spot-rain-causes-no-movementHopefully service can resume sooner than later, I am flying out to San Diego on 2/5 and taking the Surfliner up to ANA that same day.

Be prepared for a Bustitution to Irvine, and a Transfer to a Surfliner upon arrival there!

 

[MIrailfan]

Yes to Both questions!( The Surfliners with Bi-Level Seating Reserve the Downstairs Level for ADA Passengers, but if youre in Biz Class its a tad more Comfortable and not as crowded as the Coaches)

Note that @ the Oceanside Station you have to ride an Elevator and cross the Tracks on a Bridge to get to the Northbound Tracks to LAX.

The Station is very busy with lots of Buses coming and going, and the signage isn't the best.Id advise them to ask the Conductor or Station staff about directions etc.

I thought Oceanside you went under by tuinnel?

 

[IanDBeacon]

Be prepared for a Bustitution to Oceanside from SAN, and a Transfer to a Surfliner upon arrival there!

I think you meant from Oceanside to Irvine?

 

[Bob Dylan]

I think you meant from Oceanside to Irvine?

My Bad, you are correct, it's Irvine where you catch the Surfliner to LAX.

 

[jis]

I thought Oceanside you went under by tuinnel?

IIRC you are right. I think @Bob Dylan is mixing up Oceanside with Irvine.

 

[Shanson]

@Bob Dylan isn't mixed up. It's simply a side effect of living in Austin! (And I should know...)

 

[Bob Dylan]

@Bob Dylan isn't mixed up. It's simply a side effect of living in Austin! (And I should know...)

According to lots of Folks, this is correct for those of us who live in the Peoples Republic of Austin!

 

[Metra Electric Rider]

According to lots of Folks, this is correct for those of us who live in the Peoples Republic of Austin!

When did Berkeley change it's name?