Viewliner II - Part 1 - Initial Production and Delivery

[west point]

Amtrak and NJT ran a test train of a V-1 sleeper, ALP-45dp, and a couple other cars a while back to certify each for 125 operation. Test Speed operated was ~130 MPH but don't know actual speed. Have not heard what the result was and if all parts of the consist all got certified to 125.

 

[Ryan]

I seem to recall hearing that it didn't go as well as they had hoped, but I can't remember from where, or even that I'm remembering it correctly.

 

[Thirdrail7]

Actually the Viewliner I cars are rated for 110MPH currently. But will be upgraded when funding comes and they can cycle them through.

I thought they have long since been upgraded for 125. But I guess the rumors I read (long before the Viewliner II's were in service) were wrong.

Actually, what I was told (second-hand, could be wrong) is that they are in fact supposed to be good for 125 -- they shouldn't need alterations -- but that they are not *certified* to 125. Amtrak was saving money on the testing since they were always coupled with Heritage cars and couldn't run at 125 anyway.

So they should be tested and certified for 125 eventually.

I'm as bad as you with this Neroden, but I believe it is the wheel profile that had to be changed as the trucks are certified. Something like that?

I seem to recall hearing that it didn't go as well as they had hoped, but I can't remember from where,

Probably from someone in the chat room.

or even that I'm remembering it correctly.

You probably are.

 

[TylerP42]

Not sure if it's needed, but I though I would put this here since I have the information infront of me, as of 01/05/2009, Viewliner Cars 62000-62049, 62091, 8400 are rated at 110. (Air Brake and train handling rules and instructions book)

 

[Acela150]

With no more Heritage cars on the Palmetto and Carolinian, are either of these two trains running at 125 MPH on the NEC yet?

Yes. Both trains can run under "B" train speeds. Unless PV is attached.

Sweet! Now when the Viewliner diners get put on the other trains, dispatchers won't have to worry about dispatching Acelas and Regionals around them!

BTW, what's PV?

Actually the Viewliner I cars are rated for 110MPH currently. But will be upgraded when funding comes and they can cycle them through.

I thought they have long since been upgraded for 125. But I guess the rumors I read (long before the Viewliner II's were in service) were wrong.

You really need to find a better place for information. The one word that commonly comes out in your posts is "Rumor". I can easily find this information in my Amtrak Employee TT, which as a RR employee who is qualified over Amtrak trackage I must carry. Granted I'm sure there is a new G.O. due, I'm sure it was still show the same information.

 

[CCC1007]

Are there really only two teens on this board?

 

[neroden]

I'm as bad as you with this Neroden, but I believe it is the wheel profile that had to be changed as the trucks are certified. Something like that?

Sounds plausible, not that I have any information whatsoever. If it is the wheel profile, this is honestly easy stuff. Wheelsets get replaced fairly often.

 

[Acela150]

Are there really only two teens on this board?

No there's quite a few. I started out here at 16 or 17. It's been to long.. I can't remember anything anymore.. LOL!!

 

[edjbox]

Once and for all,

Viewliner Is have been tested at 125 mph but certified operational speeds have not been raised yet

 

[Matthew1551]

Are there really only two teens on this board?

Ahem.. make that 3.

Matthew, age 15

 

[AmtrakBlue]

Are there really only two teens on this board?

Ahem.. make that 3.

Matthew, age 15

I'm wondering if he's implying the adults are acting like teens/kids. h34r:

 

[CCC1007]

Are there really only two teens on this board?

Ahem.. make that 3.
Matthew, age 15

I'm wondering if he's implying the adults are acting like teens/kids. h34r:

Not at all, though that would be one way of seeing it...

 

[brianpmcdonnell17]

Can you ride Amtrak alone at 15? I just turned 16, I always thought that was the minimum age. Although, since there is no requirement for ID with date of birth for minors I am not sure how they can enforce that.

 

[Dutchrailnut]

here is your answer : https://www.amtrak.com/unaccompanied-minors-policy

 

[LakeShoreLtd.]

Diner 8400 is on the eastbound Lakeshore Limited #48 today. Personally, I love the look of its paint scheme

 

[IndyRacingNut]

This truly is the thread that won't die, isn't it?

 

[AmtrakBlue]

This truly is the thread that won't die, isn't it?

Why should it? We're still waiting for the new diners and sleepers to be delivered.

 

[MikefromCrete]

The thread won't die until the cars are delivered and in service. And only God knows when that will be.

 

[jis]

The thread won't die until the cars are delivered and in service. And only God knows when that will be.

You give too much credit to god I am afraid

Meanwhile Bangladesh Railway placed an order for 120 Broad Gauge Coaches (Cars) meeting UIC standards, with mixed accommodation, with the Railway Coach Factory of Indian Railways in Kapurthala last September, with 40 to be delivered by March 2016 and the rest by March 2017.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/jalandhar/rcf-to-export-coaches-to-bangladesh/196032.html

RCF just finished delivering the first 40, couple of days back, on schedule, six months after the order was placed. They were delivered in two 20 car special moves from Kapurthala, crossing the border into Bangladesh at Gede. Shows what is possible when off the shelf equipment is ordered from a running production line.

BR is also getting a hundred or so Metre Gauge cars from Indoneisa, which are starting to arrive by boat.

 

[A Voice]

The thread won't die until the cars are delivered and in service. And only God knows when that will be.

You give too much credit to god I am afraid

Not at all. God isn't concerned much about the Viewliner II order, because he already knows when the cars will be delivered, and he knows the day the last of them will be retired four or five decades from now.

We're the ones who obsess over such things!

 

[hastybob]

BOLO! The new Viewliner cars in Philadelphia are heading south this evening on a special. Looks like they are headed to Miami like the other ones did!

 

[TylerP42]

BOLO! The new Viewliner cars in Philadelphia are heading south this evening on a special. Looks like they are headed to Miami like the other ones did!

I thought I remember hearing that they'd enter service in Florida first, but that's just what I remember, who knows what they are doing.

 

[AmtrakBlue]

BOLO! The new Viewliner cars in Philadelphia are heading south this evening on a special. Looks like they are headed to Miami like the other ones did!

I thought I remember hearing that they'd enter service in Florida first, but that's just what I remember, who knows what they are doing.

Seriously doubt they're entering service as these are just the test cars. They're probably going down so the maintenance people can see what they'll be getting in the near future.

 

[Seaboard92]

Running as a special movement or tacked on to 97 or 91?

 

[ronkstevens]

BOLO! The new Viewliner cars in Philadelphia are heading south this evening on a special. Looks like they are headed to Miami like the other ones did!

I thought I remember hearing that they'd enter service in Florida first, but that's just what I remember, who knows what they are doing.

Seriously doubt they're entering service as these are just the test cars. They're probably going down so the maintenance people can see what they'll be getting in the near future.

Or make sure all of the defects have been corrected