Viewliner II - Part 1 - Initial Production and Delivery

[Seaboard92]

. Now trying to find that and other factual information on the topic buried amongst the plethora of off topic posts, good luck.

This thread is indeed top heavy. That being said, would anyone object to a new thread covering the delivery and acceptance of the diners? Maybe we can have a thread for each fleet. Maybe this can be the baggage thread?

I second the notion. It seems like a great idea.

 

[tommylicious]

Agreed. Call it new viewliner diner thread?

 

[Cho Cho Charlie]

. Now trying to find that and other factual information on the topic buried amongst the plethora of off topic posts, good luck.

This thread is indeed top heavy. That being said, would anyone object to a new thread covering the delivery and acceptance of the diners? Maybe we can have a thread for each fleet. Maybe this can be the baggage thread?

Are you volunteering to actively police the topic split 24/7?

From the history here, you might intend to have separate threads for each VL2 car, but after a few seconds, any such distinctions will blur away. In the end, we'll simply have multiple threads, all just like this one, plus the additional overhead of people feeling the need to make the same duplicate post in each of them.

 

[Steve4031]

This thread is working ok imho as long as we stay close to the topic. I check back every time there is a blue dot on my phone next this topic. It's annoying to then find a photo of the city of Annapolis rather than the dining car Annapolis.

 

[A Voice]

I also vote for the motion for separate threads; Even with some off-topic or other commentary which (sometimes appropriately, even) blurs the lines between car types, there will just be less material to have to sift through (182 pages here and counting).

Still, since you said that Steve, you realize someone will now have to post a picture of every city with a diner named for it.

 

[jis]

Albany would be a special case, for which a photo of the Diner and the City in the same photo could be posted should one get the right angle to take such a shot, maybe by the LAB Bridge as it makes its way from Elmira to Albany on the delivery run.

 

[StriderGDM]

If I get a head's up and I have the time, I'd be willing to try to get that shot.

I suspect a call to the local newspaper could generate some interest.. Good PR.

 

[A Voice]

I just want to get the same shot of Nashville.....

 

[AmtrakBlue]

Albany would be a special case, for which a photo of the Diner and the City in the same photo could be posted should one get the right angle to take such a shot, maybe by the LAB Bridge as it makes its way from Elmira to Albany on the delivery run.

*Like*

 

[neroden]

This thread is so old (2012) we should start a new thread anyway. I abandoned my original "The next few years" thread, y'know?

 

[KnightRail]

It's way past this thread's bed time. It's time for a new thread, "Viewliner II: ON TOPIC" Everything else needs to go off into general discussion or someplace else. Anyone who comes here trying to read a thread for factual information on Viewliner IIs is not going to read 182+ pages, especially when the majority of it has nothing to do with the subject. It's time to turn the page and close this chapter.

 

[AKA]

It's way past this thread's bed time. It's time for a new thread, "Viewliner II: ON TOPIC" Everything else needs to go off into general discussion or someplace else. Anyone who comes here trying to read a thread for factual information on Viewliner IIs is not going to read 182+ pages, especially when the majority of it has nothing to do with the subject. It's time to turn the page and close this chapter.

I concur

 

[AmtrakBlue]

I started one. Sorry I forgot to post a link to it here.

http://discuss.amtraktrains.com/index.php?/topic/69487-viewliner-iis-diners-sleeperseta-tbd/&do=findComment&comment=690346

 

[Deni]

Why would you need Wi-Fi in an eating place? I know, I know. ^_^

For those who don't know the actual answer (and I'm just guessing here, but it seems most logical)...I'm pretty sure that the network connection is installed in the food service cars, because to ensure that a train has Wi-Fi you just need to ensure it has a food service car, which..nearly everything does. Makes more sense than installing the equipment in specific coach cars and then trying to spread them out evenly across consists.

Yeah, I didn't realize they did it that way until I was on a Wolverine from CHI to PON and some sort of mechanical situation happened to the cafe car, something that involved some sort of rod that prohibited the train from being able to continue on with that car attached, or the rod being re-attached. So they had to drop the car as they were not able to fix it on site, so we lost internet access the rest of the trip, along with beer access.

One of those rare times I was on a train for a business trip rather than pleasure, usually I couldn't care less about having the internet while I'm on a train. But this was the one time I was actually using it, and I lost it really early in the trip. And then no cocktails to boot.

 

[jis]

That is why always carry my own backup internet WiFi service with me in my iPhone. There have been numerous occasions where I have had to fall back on it, faced with performance or other issues with public WiFi hot spots. I can't wait to get 5G service, but typically even WiFi backended on 4G LTE usually performs better than most WiFi hot spots.

 

[Deni]

That is why always carry my own backup internet WiFi service with me in my iPhone. There have been numerous occasions where I have had to fall back on it, faced with performance or other issues with public WiFi hot spots. I can't wait to get 5G service, but typically even WiFi backended on 4G LTE usually performs better than most WiFi hot spots.

Yeah, I know most people can still have the internet through their phone. I'm accused of being a Luddite by my friends for my refusal to get a smart phone (I only keep my flip phone because my wife won't allow me to get rid of having a cell phone altogether). My portable music is still a disc-man and a pack of CDs.

 

[jis]

That is why always carry my own backup internet WiFi service with me in my iPhone. There have been numerous occasions where I have had to fall back on it, faced with performance or other issues with public WiFi hot spots. I can't wait to get 5G service, but typically even WiFi backended on 4G LTE usually performs better than most WiFi hot spots.

Yeah, I know most people can still have the internet through their phone. I'm accused of being a Luddite by my friends for my refusal to get a smart phone (I only keep my flip phone because my wife won't allow me to get rid of having a cell phone altogether). My portable music is still a disc-man and a pack of CDs.

And you still use WiFi and the internet?

 

[PVD]

And lots of people who get the internet on their phone like wi-fi so they can connect and not eat into their data plans.

 

[bretton88]

That is why always carry my own backup internet WiFi service with me in my iPhone. There have been numerous occasions where I have had to fall back on it, faced with performance or other issues with public WiFi hot spots. I can't wait to get 5G service, but typically even WiFi backended on 4G LTE usually performs better than most WiFi hot spots.

Yeah, I know most people can still have the internet through their phone. I'm accused of being a Luddite by my friends for my refusal to get a smart phone (I only keep my flip phone because my wife won't allow me to get rid of having a cell phone altogether). My portable music is still a disc-man and a pack of CDs.

I'm just shocked your company hasn't forced the issue with you by issuing a smartphone.

 

[jis]

And lots of people who get the internet on their phone like wi-fi so they can connect and not eat into their data plans.

Yeah, recreational use which is non critical is OK. But when I am actually doing work with a deadline, that simply does not cut it. Public WiFi service today are actually notoriously poor and unreliable when it really matters.

 

[Deni]

That is why always carry my own backup internet WiFi service with me in my iPhone. There have been numerous occasions where I have had to fall back on it, faced with performance or other issues with public WiFi hot spots. I can't wait to get 5G service, but typically even WiFi backended on 4G LTE usually performs better than most WiFi hot spots.

Yeah, I know most people can still have the internet through their phone. I'm accused of being a Luddite by my friends for my refusal to get a smart phone (I only keep my flip phone because my wife won't allow me to get rid of having a cell phone altogether). My portable music is still a disc-man and a pack of CDs.

And you still use WiFi and the internet?

Well, I'm not a Luddite, I'm just picky about what technologies I'll use (at least that's my argument to my friends).

 

[Deni]

That is why always carry my own backup internet WiFi service with me in my iPhone. There have been numerous occasions where I have had to fall back on it, faced with performance or other issues with public WiFi hot spots. I can't wait to get 5G service, but typically even WiFi backended on 4G LTE usually performs better than most WiFi hot spots.

Yeah, I know most people can still have the internet through their phone. I'm accused of being a Luddite by my friends for my refusal to get a smart phone (I only keep my flip phone because my wife won't allow me to get rid of having a cell phone altogether). My portable music is still a disc-man and a pack of CDs.

I'm just shocked your company hasn't forced the issue with you by issuing a smartphone.

My boss used to make snarky comments to me about it. Had I stayed with the company they might have forced the issue at some point, and I still would have refused. But I quit anyway. My life was a lot better than other employees because I had control over access to my time, rather than the company being able to inject itself into my life 24/7.

 

[A Voice]

That is why always carry my own backup internet WiFi service with me in my iPhone. There have been numerous occasions where I have had to fall back on it, faced with performance or other issues with public WiFi hot spots. I can't wait to get 5G service, but typically even WiFi backended on 4G LTE usually performs better than most WiFi hot spots.

I'm accused of being a Luddite by my friends for my refusal to get a smart phone (I only keep my flip phone because my wife won't allow me to get rid of having a cell phone altogether). My portable music is still a disc-man and a pack of CDs.

Thank You. At least I'm not the only one who is still using a flip phone. No disc-man, but I do still use a Betamax.

 

[jis]

I actually never used a flip phone, since I found it too inconvenient. I wonder what that makes me. I never started using a cell phone seriously until the smartphones came about.

 

[west point]

Flip phone? you bet. Ever had a butt call and being eavesdropped on your conversation ? Not good at all.