SWC train #4 projected 10 hrs 25 min late going into Chicago today 8-12-22. That puts ETA at about 1:20AM tomorrow. Does anyone know what happened? If this keeps up it could have a severe impact on ridership.
Did you check Amtrak's twitter alerts? You'll probably get your answer faster from that than posting on a forum with your question.SWC train #4 projected 10 hrs 25 min late going into Chicago today 8-12-22. That puts ETA at about 1:20AM tomorrow. Does anyone know what happened? If this keeps up it could have a severe impact on ridership.
Route to exit union station is blocked. Freight car derails close to Union Station in downtown PortlandMy son is on Train11 now going from Portland to Eugene. He just text me that they are delayed due to 2 different derailments.
Anyone have further information?
Oh wow. I’ve been hearing of that happening more and more recently. On one of my recent trips the train didn’t have a cafe for the first 15 hours.I guess they’ll be there a while. I hope they brought extra food with them as he got a Message this morning that there was no cafe car on the train.
Is it warm? And is that 2 meals, or one?
They each got one. He said lukewarm.Is it warm? And is that 2 meals, or one?
Engineers must be "qualified" on routes they operate over. That means they must be extremely familiar with physical characteristics of the line. If they are detoured over a route they are not qualified on, a "pilot" engineer who is qualified must be in the cab. Although the original engineer will often still be operating the train.View attachment 29190
That’s the train station from above and the detailed train just before
We’re going backwards then rerouted to a freight line for a few miles to bypass it
They need staff from union Pacific to engineer the train apparently because the conductors don’t know the route we need to take?
These are my son’s texts to me
Thank you for your explanation. I’ll be sure to tell my son.Engineers must be "qualified" on routes they operate over. That means they must be extremely familiar with physical characteristics of the line. If they are detoured over a route they are not qualified on, a "pilot" engineer who is qualified must be in the cab. Although the original engineer will often still be operating the train.
In this case, it sounds like the train will back up to North Portland Junction where UP resumes its own line from the trackage rights it has on BNSF from Tacoma to North Portland. It will the proceed down the UP from North Portland Junction via Albina to East Portland just across the Steel Bridge from the station, where the normal route is regained.
It is lucky that
a. A detour route is available
b. UP is willing to allow it
c. A UP pilot engineer is available.
Some airports require that pilots have special training to land there due to terrain, other obstacles or limited approach routes.How come the engineer has to know the physical characteristics? Relief bus drivers/airline pilots only have to be qualified on the bus/plane they are driving or flying, respectively.
Probably looking for food or mattresses.Silver Star left NYC yesterday 2 hours late, and arrived in Miami 3 hours late.
My son is on Train11 now going from Portland to Eugene. He just text me that they are delayed due to 2 different derailments.
Anyone have further information?
Just the opposite for railroads, operating crews must be qualified on the physical characteristics of the territory they operate over, but can operate any locomotive.How come the engineer has to know the physical characteristics? Relief bus drivers/airline pilots only have to be qualified on the bus/plane they are driving or flying, respectively.
Either way, the T&E crew that brought the train down from Seattle probably still had hours left and my understanding is all PDX crews are qualified all routes out of PDX, north to Seattle, south to K Falls, and east to Pasco (engineers)/Spokane (conductors).For the back up at PDX the back up conductor would also need a pilot. Maybe the conducctor was qualified for the BNSF tracks even though he operates south of PDX or the inbound conductor from SEA stayed on duty to do the back up?
Yes. They got off in Eugene.Did your son detrain at Eugene? Train 11 is now getting a daylight trip down the Sacramento River Canyon and over Shasta Lake. It would be hell to be that late, but the scenery is a compensation.
And it doesn't improve going back into June.Here's how the 6 train of the CZ has done arriving in CHI since mid July. Had my gal and I known of all this madness we would never have attempted this Yellowstone bucket-list trip by Amtrak! We'd have worked out some way to drive it or ride buses or something. And from what I'm reading in these forums, this is the norm across the LD trains. I'm just astounded by the "service" being provided. Any other business would fold very quickly.
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Ya know, I'm really starting to regret reporting that.Probably looking for food or mattresses.
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