Covid Mask Mandate for Transportation

[Bob Dylan]

From Business Insider:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/lifestyle...re-extremely-vulnerable/ar-AAMgsD7?li=AAggNb9

 

[Bob Dylan]

Some of the Casinos and Businesses in Vegas are returning to Mask Mandates for Employees and Visitors as Cases Triple in Nevada.( 70% of Vegas Visitors are from California and Texas, since International Travel has been curtailed into the US)

I had considered taking a really Bargain trip to Vegas to see the New Buildings and attend a Couple of the Shows ( it's been 20 years since I was there) including Penn and Teller and the Beatles Circus Solei Love Show., but now it's a Hard Pass.

 

[TinCan782]

Some of the Casinos and Businesses in Vegas are returning to Mask Mandates for Employees and Visitors as Cases Triple in Nevada.( 70% of Vegas Visitors are from California and Texas, since International Travel has been curtailed into the US)

I had considered taking a really Bargain trip to Vegas to see the New Buildings and attend a Couple of the Shows ( it's been 20 years since I was there) including Penn and Teller and the Beatles Circus Solei Love Show., but now it's a Hard Pass.

Here in Los Angeles County, we are returning to masks for everyone indoors beginning midnight tonight (Sat/Sun July 17/18). We've still been masking in stores etc. anyway even though we've been fully vaccinated since March.

 

[Qapla]

We are contemplating a Vermonter trip in late September for leaf peeping but 9-10 hours from NYP to ESX wearing a mask is not terribly appealing.
We would probably opt out of such a trip, or at least the Amtrak portion as that would just be too uncomfortable for us.

Something that can making wearing a mask for an extended period of time a little more bearable ... bring enough masks so that you can put a fresh one on each hour. Just because Amtrak requires you to wear a mask - nothing says it has to be the same mask for the entire trip.

 

[neroden]

Unless one has an N95 MEDICAL mask, the mask does not STOP the virus completely. Worse, since many wear masks wrong, it is less effective. But it is effective at REDUCING transmission.

Masks which aren't over the nose and mouth are indeed highly ineffective. :-(

Recent studies show that the fit of the mask is more important than whether it's an N95. It appears that the primary issue is air going around the edges of the mask. Though in fact I have a combination of American-made N95s, and three-layers with N95 center inserts -- they're not that hard to get now, so I encourage people to do so.

 

[Bob Dylan]

Masks are Plentiful and Affordable right now, I advise people to stock up before the Fall/Winter "Wave" which WILL come.

Also, Vaccines are readily available and FREE, No Excuse for not getting Vaccinated unless your Dr says you shouldn't for Reasons of Health.

If you don't, you might be so sorry!

 

[PVD]

For most people, the discomfort issue can be dealt with in a few different ways. 1. wear fresh/clean masks (rotate them) 2. make sure they fit well, and are appropriate for your face, not everyone is comfortable with the same type 3. If you are using an ear-loop type, and because of glasses, hearing aids, or the shape of your face/ears they are uncomfortable or slip, there are many inexpensive bands available that hook the ear loops and go behind your head. They help in many cases.....

 

[tonys96]

After spending 6 days last November in ICU with the stupid Covid, and now having a complication from it that necessitates the use of an inhaler, I will wear a mask in crowded areas with folks I do not know. I do not want to go through that again, as I may nor be as blessed next time, nor would I wish that experience on another, not even any of the boyfriends of any of the ex-wives.
So, any protection for me, or others, is better than no protection.

 

[Seaboard92]

Honestly even when they tell us we can take our masks off I will probably still wear one during cold and flu season. Since we've started wearing masks every day in March of 2020 I haven't been sick once, and my seasonal allergies improved. So if you ask me masks work for more than just covid. And they aren't that uncomfortable. I wear mine for 8-14 hours a day and I don't have a problem with it.

 

[Qapla]

I have noticed that many of the people I deal with that must wear a mask all day do not complain about it near as much as those who only wear one when they "must".

 

[Deni]

I have noticed that many of the people I deal with that must wear a mask all day do not complain about it near as much as those who only wear one when they "must".

That's the truth!

 

[Trollopian]

An opinion article in today's Washington Post urges the federal government to cut the c**p and start mandating vaccines, where it has the authority. Including on Amtrak. From https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...th-anti-vaxxers-start-mandating-vaccinations/:

"Biden can set an example by using his authority to mandate vaccinations for airline travel and Amtrak travel and for federal employees or those who enter federal buildings. The Pentagon has not made vaccinations mandatory because they were approved only on an emergency basis by the Food and Drug Administration — which is why a third of the military still hasn’t received a single shot. Biden can and should issue an executive order mandating military vaccinations as a national security priority.

Granted, there are limits to the United States’ ability to mandate vaccines because many red-state governors are unlikely to go along. But even Republicans want to fly on airplanes and visit blue states such as California, Hawaii, Nevada and New York..."

(The author goes on to compare vaccine mandates to seat-belt, drunken-driving, and motorcycle-helmet laws, which save lives.)

 

[PaTrainFan]

(The author goes on to compare vaccine mandates to seat-belt, drunken-driving, and motorcycle-helmet laws, which save lives.)

^
This.

 

[Bob Dylan]

An opinion article in today's Washington Post urges the federal government to cut the c**p and start mandating vaccines, where it has the authority. Including on Amtrak. From https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...th-anti-vaxxers-start-mandating-vaccinations/:

"Biden can set an example by using his authority to mandate vaccinations for airline travel and Amtrak travel and for federal employees or those who enter federal buildings. The Pentagon has not made vaccinations mandatory because they were approved only on an emergency basis by the Food and Drug Administration — which is why a third of the military still hasn’t received a single shot. Biden can and should issue an executive order mandating military vaccinations as a national security priority.

Granted, there are limits to the United States’ ability to mandate vaccines because many red-state governors are unlikely to go along. But even Republicans want to fly on airplanes and visit blue states such as California, Hawaii, Nevada and New York..."

(The author goes on to compare vaccine mandates to seat-belt, drunken-driving, and motorcycle-helmet laws, which save lives.)

President Biden needs to follow the Old Nike Slogan: " Just Do It!"

 

[west point]

Look at it this way. Non vaccinated persons are just exposing other non vaccinated persons. Unfortunately that as of now includes all persons under 12. Also persons who have other medical problems that might have to be isolated. ------- With Delta variant non vaccinated are putting some others to be re infected and compromising all immune deficient persons that are vaccinated.

I do not allow any non vaccinated persons as I might transmit a virus from them thru me to persons listed above.

 

[Bob Dylan]

Look at it this way. Non vaccinated persons are just exposing other non vaccinated persons. Unfortunately that as of now includes all persons under 12. Also persons who have other medical problems that might have to be isolated. ------- With Delta variant non vaccinated are putting some others to be re infected and compromising all immune deficient persons that are vaccinated.

I do not allow any non vaccinated persons as I might transmit a virus from them thru me to persons listed above.

It's not just Unvaccinated persons @ Risk, more and more Positives are showing up.in Vaccinated people including the Six Members of the Texas Legislature that tested Positive in DC even though they had been Vaccinated with the Pfizer Vaccine!

 

[AmtrakBlue]

Look at it this way. Non vaccinated persons are just exposing other non vaccinated persons. Unfortunately that as of now includes all persons under 12. Also persons who have other medical problems that might have to be isolated. ------- With Delta variant non vaccinated are putting some others to be re infected and compromising all immune deficient persons that are vaccinated.

I do not allow any non vaccinated persons as I might transmit a virus from them thru me to persons listed above.

Non-vaccinated are infecting vaccinated who then can infect others.

 

[joelkfla]

Non-vaccinated are infecting vaccinated who then can infect others.

Maybe. Dr. Fauci says the amount of virus in the nasopharynx of an asymptomatic fully vaccinated infected individual is much lower than in an asymptomatic unvaccinated individual. It has not yet been determined whether the vaccinated individual's viral load is enough to spread infection. He said we might know the answer within a month or 2.

 

[AmtrakBlue]

Maybe. Dr. Fauci says the amount of virus in the nasopharynx of an asymptomatic fully vaccinated infected individual is much lower than in an asymptomatic unvaccinated individual. It has not yet been determined whether the vaccinated individual's viral load is enough to spread infection. He said we might know the answer within a month or 2.

Well, I'm going to minimize my chances of infecting my 2 year old granddaughter and her soon-to-be-born brother. I'm back to wearing masks in church, stores, and restaurants.

 

[jis]

Well, I'm going to minimize my chances of infecting my 2 year old granddaughter and her soon-to-be-born brother. I'm back to wearing masks in church, stores, and restaurants.

I have been wearing masks in all enclosed public spaces for the last two weeks as Reproduction Rate in Florida has tended to be above 0.8 through that period. The reality of that is currently reflected in the rate of growth of cases of late.

 

[Bob Dylan]

I have been wearing masks in all enclosed public spaces for the last two weeks as Reproduction Rate in Florida has tended to be above 0.8 through that period. The reality of that is currently reflected in the rate of growth of cases of late.

Its spreading like wildfire all over!

I'd much rather wear a Mask for a few Hours rather than see anyone on a Ventilator in a Hospital, or spend Eternity in a Pine Box because of what someone saw on Social Media or some Huckster Politician says!

 

[pennyk]

I have been wearing masks in all enclosed public spaces for the last two weeks as Reproduction Rate in Florida has tended to be above 0.8 through that period. The reality of that is currently reflected in the rate of growth of cases of late.

Me too. Now, I will not ride the elevator in my condo building with anyone not wearing a mask, whether or not they claim to be vaccinated. I think I will be walking the stairs a lot.

 

[joelkfla]

Well, I'm going to minimize my chances of infecting my 2 year old granddaughter and her soon-to-be-born brother. I'm back to wearing masks in church, stores, and restaurants.

That certainly seems prudent at this time.

 

[Exvalley]

Now, I will not ride the elevator in my condo building with anyone not wearing a mask

But what do you do when the elevator shows up and someone steps off of it who has not been wearing a mask?

 

[Exvalley]

My area is still doing well. For my county, you can count the number of new cases in the past 14 days with one hand - and still have a couple of fingers to spare.