Derailment of Cascades #501, DuPont WA, 2017-12-18

[WoodyinNYC]

77 people taken to hospitals, 6 fatalities. That's 85 people.

Not to quibble ... except that's part of what we do here ... but you've left somebody unaccounted for.

 

[Just-Thinking-51]

A early photo show several tents set up. Each color is a triage level. The colors show transportation order and severe of injuries. Red is 1st or Immediate, Yellow is 2nd or Delayed, Green is 3rd or Minor, Black is last to transport or Deceased/Expected.

 

[KmH]

I saw what I believed used to be one on the right.

Who took that photo?

 

[Lonestar648]

It came from the "TRAINS" web site article on the crash.

 

[Green Maned Lion]

77 people taken to hospitals, 6 fatalities. That's 85 people.

Not to quibble ... except that's part of what we do here ... but you've left somebody unaccounted for.

I didn't account for anyone, I just did some basic math.

 

[WoodyinNYC]

77 people taken to hospitals, 6 fatalities. That's 85 people.

Not to quibble ... except that's part of what we do here ... but you've left somebody unaccounted for.

I didn't account for anyone, I just did some basic math.

And your basic math is 77 + 6 = 85?

I keep getting a different sum.

 

[Green Maned Lion]

As well you should be.

 

[AmtrakBlue]

77 people taken to hospitals, 6 fatalities. That's 85 people.

Not to quibble ... except that's part of what we do here ... but you've left somebody unaccounted for.

I didn't account for anyone, I just did some basic math.

Which is off by 2, not one, so Woody is also missing somebody.

 

[AmtrakBlue]

This report says there were only 3 fatalities. http://komonews.com/news/local/derailed-train-falls-off-bridge-onto-i-5-lanes-south-of-tacoma

 

[Medic981]

Are, what appears to be, orange spray paint markings, like "A" and "B1", part of the recue operations? Or of some preliminary accident reconstruction?

When fire rescue is searching and clearing structures or vehicles in mass casualty situations, they are marked as to not duplicate effort.

 

[dlagrua]

Tragic event. Hope that all those hurt recover soon. I just wonder if the theory that something on the tracks caused the derailment is valid

 

[Rover]

Tragic event. Hope that all those hurt recover soon. I just wonder if the theory that something on the tracks caused the derailment is valid

I wish that all Amtrak engines came with a forward facing digital camera, that recorded on a loop, the last 5 minutes of travel, or something like that. That way there'd be video of most collisions.

 

[Lonestar648]

The media seems to be ignoring that report and focising on the the speed limit change from 79 to 30 in 1/4 mile.

 

[CCC1007]

Tragic event. Hope that all those hurt recover soon. I just wonder if the theory that something on the tracks caused the derailment is valid

I wish that all Amtrak engines came with a forward facing digital camera, that recorded on a loop, the last 5 minutes of travel, or something like that. That way there'd be video of most collisions.

they do... it probably hasn’t been pulled yet, and we likely won’t see it until all legal battles from this incident are done and the evidence is made public.

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[NE933]

I'm thinking the size of these Talgo cars make them poor energy dissipators, and, that the small length enabled that one upside down car on the road, coming squarely to rest in the worst place: a zone where the remaining cars would come down on top of it.

 

[Dutchrailnut]

http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2017/12/18/washington-amtrak-derailment-aerials-wolf.cnn/video/playlists/washington-passenger-train-derailment/

 

[s10mk]

I saw what I believed used to be one on the right.

Purely speculation, but from this picture and from looking at where the charger came to a stop. It sure looks like the charger came off of the tracks before it reached the bend

 

[A Voice]

The media seems to be ignoring that report and focising on the the speed limit change from 79 to 30 in 1/4 mile.

The media is a remarkably poor source of reliable information anymore. Not saying there was or was not an object struck (clearly, there was once off the ROW), but when you have a commentator (CNN) referring to the rear P-42 (which appears to have held the rails) as the "front" of the train, you have reason to be suspect of everything else they report.

 

[edjbox]

Are the other Amtrak trains being diverted back to the original trackage around port defiance?

 

[KmH]

The media is a remarkably poor source of reliable information anymore. Not saying there was or was not an object struck (clearly, there was once off the ROW), but when you have a commentator (CNN) referring to the rear P-42 (which appears to have held the rails) as the "front" of the train, you have reason to be suspect of everything else they report.

QFT.

The media is a remarkably poor source of reliable information anymore.

 

[Green Maned Lion]

Drop the anymore. It never has been.

 

[CSXfoamer1997]

Is the locomotive they are showing 181 the lead or trailing unit?

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Trailing. The leader was WSDOT SC-44 #1402, which sustained severe damage.

 

[Big Green Chauvanist]

Besides multiple media outlets calling the Cascade a "high-speed train", one of the nightly national news programs this evening referred to it as a "commuter train".

 

[Rover]

Besides multiple media outlets calling the Cascade a "high-speed train", one of the nightly national news programs this evening referred to it as a "commuter train".

 

[jackal]

Are the other Amtrak trains being diverted back to the original trackage around port defiance?

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amtrak-guest-rewards/1882781-pnw-routes-losing-scenic-stretch-after-dec-17th.htmlsays yes.

Besides multiple media outlets calling the Cascade a "high-speed train", one of the nightly national news programs this evening referred to it as a "commuter train".

I have a friend who works in production on CBS Evening News. I told him to tell the powers that be to quit referring to it as a "high-speed train." We'll see if it has any effect...