FY 2025 Ridership Expansion and Fiscal Recovery

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I assume that they are counting the number of warm bodies that rode on a particular road, regardless of how far they went. Are passenger miles traveled reported too?
This is correct. I’m working with unlinked passenger counts, butts in chairs. Passenger miles are sometimes reported, sometimes not. Lately they have been.
MonthTrain 1333Train 1340Hiawatha Corridor only
May 20243,6223,0282,562
June 202410,3239,1226,663
July 202411,03110,2365,202
Aug 202411,74610,5635,527
Sep 20249,8598,9295,658
Oct 202410,98110,0555,419
Nov 202410,6248,9085,523
Dec 202410,8789,6925,261

No offense taken, I was guessing that that was a hair less than 7,000/month. I’m glad we have some data. Thank you.

Septra9737 - please provide a link to the data source. Thank you for the commentary.
Amtrak’s wonderful IT likes to post/take down/repost these, so I don’t link them, but the data always comes from math produced from the Monthly Performance Reports available on the Reports and Documents page of Amtrak.com
 
The Floridian: It carried 65,000 passengers this month. That’s astounding. It represents 15,700 more riders than the Star/Capitol served last year and 11,000 more than the same month in 2019. My guess from last month seems to have proven quite low. If this 65,000 is accurate (not an adjustment or a typo), it seems quite likely that this train will go down as a smashing success (kinks notwithstanding). Based off the data of about 7 weeks, I’d estimate ridership will settle at 600,000-780,000 over the first 12 full months.

The operating ratio is .56 this month, an improvement over the month prior. Expenses were $10,200,000; revenues were $5,700,000. Only the unique Auto Train and all coach Palmetto had substantially better ratios. The Silver Meteor and Lakeshore were comparable. The third sleeper, should it come next month, would be huge to get the route over .6.

The route delivered 24,300,000 passenger miles this month. It’s constituents delivered 20,500,000 last year, including the NEC segment of the Star, up 18%. Ridership is up 32%, indicating that the growth is real, but some trips are perhaps shorter.
 
The route delivered 24,300,000 passenger miles this month. It’s constituents delivered 20,500,000 last year, including the NEC segment of the Star, up 18%. Ridership is up 32%, indicating that the growth is real, but some trips are perhaps shorter.

Have always thought the Revenue Passenger Miles (RPMs) is best measure of performance. The variable that is possible is Floridian is stealing some potential passengers from otherwise Meteor passengers? Maybe the totals of Star, Meteor, & Floridian combined totals will give a better picture. Use a fudge factor for no Star north of WASH along side non fudge factor.
 
Would love to get a feel for where the Floridan traffic growth is coming from:

--How much is to/from Florida and northern cities like PIT/CLE/TOL/CHI?

--How much comes from shorter intermediate city pairs which are now single-seat trips like Savannah-Pittsburgh, Chicago-Raleigh, Cleveland-Richmond, etc?

--Is there any notable change from connections upline from Chicago? Stuff like Minneapolis-Miami, Richmond-St Louis, Milwaukee-Orlando, now that it's a one-connection trip?

--What impact has there been on traffic flows which used to have a thru train north of DC but now must connect? Is most of that former Silver Star traffic from NYP/PHL/BAL retained but with the new DC connection? Or instead moving to other thru trains like Silver Meteor, Carolinian and Palmetto? Or being lost completely?

Knowing this kind of information can help better understand where the pent-up demand is strongest. If large portions of growth are coming specifically between Chicago and Florida (or even connecting from beyond Chicago down to Florida) that's an even stronger push for a new, more-direct Chicago-Florida routing. If instead it's primarily growth in new single-seat region city pairs like Pittsburgh-Raleigh, Cleveland-Richmond, etc. that may show that the bigger hidden demand supports beefing up frequency on thru + connecting regional coridoor routes.

Obviously it's a slow struggle to get anything new but every last bit of new success Amtrak experiences should be leveraged to gain support where it can be found.
 
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